Episode 59 - Josh Brolin (Season 49)

[00:00:00] It's The Ten to One Podcast with your hosts, right over featuring not Ben Conowicz and

[00:00:14] May Laugh.

[00:00:15] And here's the podcast.

[00:00:20] Ben is at a retirement resort everyone.

[00:00:23] He's not even sure how cool that is.

[00:00:25] He looks like a nursing home.

[00:00:28] It is definitely a Mexican nursing home that he has sent us pictures.

[00:00:35] He's enjoying his time there, but everyone we've seen in pictures is at least 75 or

[00:00:43] sad.

[00:00:44] Or sad.

[00:00:45] Or sad.

[00:00:46] Spreading ashes of their loved ones.

[00:00:51] It is.

[00:00:52] It's just a picture I don't know.

[00:00:53] It would look like a party, but it was like ten people maybe.

[00:00:57] In this area on a dance floor with like a big kind of like screen happening and then

[00:01:02] there was like all brand at the breakfast bar.

[00:01:06] And he had like a bowl of fruit in his room.

[00:01:10] It's yeah, I don't know because of all the things Ben's going to eat.

[00:01:15] It's not going to be fruit.

[00:01:16] I mean, I don't even think he's going to I don't think he's going to do anything with

[00:01:19] that fruit that is evolving eating.

[00:01:21] It's going to be going other orifices.

[00:01:27] So speaking of big beef cakes, Josh Brolin was on SNL this week and third time.

[00:01:34] Is he a big beef cake?

[00:01:35] Is that right?

[00:01:36] I don't know.

[00:01:37] He seems he seems he might just have a big head like he's got a substantial head if

[00:01:42] you ever see him.

[00:01:43] Yeah, I mean he's he's a he's a he's a fit man like to me John Cena is a beef cake.

[00:01:48] That's a beef cake but like yeah, did you see him at the Oscars that dude did I I thought

[00:01:55] it was almost as if he was photoshopped right in front of us.

[00:01:58] Yeah, he has like the perfect pelvic like definition that muscle right there.

[00:02:05] Yeah, you notice that one dude to go and that goes right down to the groin.

[00:02:08] Yeah, Ben Ben knows what kind of gutters those are.

[00:02:11] Yeah, he does.

[00:02:13] But I saw that I'm like geez, the least dude you you got it going on and I'm I'm mostly

[00:02:20] straight and but that dude he's got it.

[00:02:23] He's got whatever it is he has it.

[00:02:26] So true, but he just wrote right.

[00:02:28] This is Josh Rollins a third time hosting here hosted back in 2008 which was the year

[00:02:33] he was in both milk and W and then he hosted again in 2012 which is the year he played

[00:02:38] young Tommy Lee Jones in men and black three.

[00:02:41] All right, all right.

[00:02:43] So we host a film podcast as well go flick yourself which is our first podcast.

[00:02:48] Rank those three movies.

[00:02:50] Oh, it's it's going to be milk men and black three and then W.

[00:02:58] Okay, does this change at all when I say rank Josh Rollins performances because sometimes

[00:03:04] right some some actress performances are better than the film that they're in like they

[00:03:09] make really good because I thought Josh Brolin was fantastic in men and black three.

[00:03:13] I really did.

[00:03:14] I thought yeah, actually that would that if we're going to rank performances that would

[00:03:16] be a number one because he's just great as emulating a young Tommy Lee Jones and he's

[00:03:21] very very funny in the role.

[00:03:23] And like he's fine as W but like it just that that's just a weird movie, you know Oliver

[00:03:27] Stone, you know, it's just an odd time to do it I feel like and I actually don't even

[00:03:32] remember much about Josh Rollins role in milk so I can't really rank it.

[00:03:36] I don't either and I don't know if we know to be mentioned we talked about band being gone

[00:03:41] but you're not the reason why this maybe recording doesn't sound like our usual quality

[00:03:46] is you're in Texas right now.

[00:03:47] Right.

[00:03:48] I am.

[00:03:49] I am in Texas.

[00:03:50] I'm down here visiting my fiance and yeah looking for maybe a place to live down here

[00:03:56] it might be moving down here relatively soon so you heard it here first.

[00:04:00] I know, well I mean I just don't know what we had to talk about that.

[00:04:03] I just thought you were going to say you were visiting me I can get sat now.

[00:04:08] Well, we can still have the wonderful conversations online.

[00:04:12] No, no, no, we're done.

[00:04:15] I know you miss my right.

[00:04:16] So I just like being the small spoon to your big spoon, you know that I've said this many

[00:04:21] times.

[00:04:22] So Josh Rollins, what I love about Josh Rollins is he's got this confidence to him that

[00:04:30] you can tell when he is on stage because I don't know he maybe he's done a lot of theater

[00:04:35] work or whatever but when he is on stage he carries a confidence with him that is just

[00:04:40] magnetic and it just kind of even when the sketches weren't perfect it could be a little

[00:04:45] bit of a big thing.

[00:04:46] It came across that he kind of knew what he was doing and he felt comfortable being silly

[00:04:49] and being whatever the sketch needed from him.

[00:04:53] So I was like, yeah we'll talk about it more specifically as like the show you know

[00:04:57] goes on when we dig into each sketch but yeah overall I feel the same way he has this like

[00:05:02] air about him where even if the sketch wasn't going very well and even if like he flubbed

[00:05:06] the line or like you know was you were still to reading from the cue cards he didn't let

[00:05:12] it bother him and he's still like kept the sketch going and it mostly worked in his

[00:05:17] favor and there's also I'll talk about this when we get to the sketch where it clicked

[00:05:21] for me but there's a certain cadence to his speech that was driving me crazy and I was

[00:05:26] like why does this like seem so familiar to me like what's the reminding me of and then

[00:05:30] I figured it out and I realized that that aspect of his performance quality at least

[00:05:36] in these sketches made some of the sketches work a little bit better because it added a

[00:05:40] certain level of eccentricity to some of the characters and it made them feel like strange

[00:05:47] and funny year because they were strange.

[00:05:49] And I'll talk more about that once we get to those specific sketches.

[00:05:53] All right let's start CNN covers President Bush's State of the Union Dress and Republican

[00:05:59] Senator Katie Brits response this sketch featured Mikey Day as President Biden and Scarlett

[00:06:05] Johansson as Senator Katie Britt I also featured Ego Wotem as Abby Philip, Punky Johnson

[00:06:11] as Kamal Harris, Michael Longfellow as Mike Johnson, Heidi Gardner and Keenan Thompson

[00:06:16] and there's a couple of surprises there we had talked about I think didn't we text

[00:06:22] about whether or not they were going to bring Katie Britt into SNL which is interesting

[00:06:26] because they only had like a day or two to prepare to get this on but they did and they found

[00:06:33] their Katie Britt and Scarlett Johansson who I thought knocked out of the park we have

[00:06:38] not been or at least I have not been I'll speak for myself here all that excited about

[00:06:43] the cold opens.

[00:06:45] And I thought this was pretty good honestly and I thought they found the right markings

[00:06:51] for parody I thought bringing Scarlett Johansson in and not having like Chloe Feynman who could

[00:06:57] probably do it though she's usually a little more cartoonish in her impressions but I

[00:07:03] thought that was a good step I thought you know it made me laugh which I haven't done

[00:07:08] a lot in cold open.

[00:07:09] What did you think of this one?

[00:07:10] Yeah this one mostly worked for me I'm still not a fan of Mikey Daze Joe Biden it worked

[00:07:17] a little bit better here because I think he was able to be more animated because Biden's

[00:07:22] speech was more energetic and so he was able to kind of lamp ruin it a little bit more

[00:07:26] beyond what he normally does with his Biden.

[00:07:30] You know and then you have like the little subtle touches in the background of Michael Longfellow

[00:07:33] just constantly shaking his head as Mike Johnson you know who look like a fucking weable

[00:07:38] wobble throughout the entire state of the union address.

[00:07:42] But yeah bringing Scarlett Johansson in SK Breit was a nice surprise you know she's an

[00:07:46] Oscar nominated actress and so that's a cool thing to do you know files in the footsteps

[00:07:50] of them bringing out Baldwin as Donald Trump and several the other stunt casting bits

[00:07:55] that they've done and it's a little bit easier because you know she's calling Joe Swife so

[00:07:59] just it's pretty easy to get her in there.

[00:08:02] But yeah I thought she did a great job because like she captured both the like the obvious

[00:08:08] part of what was so annoying about that real speech but also like the little nuance

[00:08:13] as of like her breath in between certain phrases and how awkward that was and like the

[00:08:19] sudden dramatic whispering and like the facial expressions drastically changing as well

[00:08:24] like she captured all of the most horrifying aspects of Katie Brit speech in a way that

[00:08:30] you want you know an actress of her caliber to do and she didn't feel like she had any

[00:08:35] trouble with like the live comedy aspect of it with the you know reading from the cue cards

[00:08:39] anything like that so yeah I was a fan and I make me wonder if you know they'll keep using

[00:08:44] her if they'll end up putting Heidi or Chloe in the role you know if she's not available

[00:08:48] I think it just depends on how much more we're going to see of Katie Brit because like obviously

[00:08:53] the Republicans think that she's this young up in commer but I know she didn't really impress

[00:08:57] the many people.

[00:08:58] I don't know if they think that anymore yeah.

[00:09:02] But it was a quick turnaround to get her to get this written they did a good job with it

[00:09:10] and if you go to our slash live from New York on Reddit which is probably the largest

[00:09:16] SNL subreddit you'll see them compare they've got these images where they're comparing

[00:09:21] Scarlett Johansson and Katie Brit's performances and the nuances that Scarlett Johansson brought

[00:09:26] to I mean just in like her facial shapes the way she moves her head it was a very nuanced

[00:09:33] and actually incredible performance from Scarlett Johansson to take some of those things

[00:09:38] and I don't know if she was coached on that or if she picked them up herself but really

[00:09:42] well done I thought yeah that's why I just I think people needed to hear it from me so

[00:09:48] my my blog oh wait by the way I was going to ask you so the state of the union has been

[00:09:57] off on SNL as a sketch four times who are the other presidents gosh that's a good question

[00:10:08] um and you know yeah I do I if you don't know I can let you know but let me tell you

[00:10:17] this the there's three presidents one of the presidents was done twice and I can tell you

[00:10:27] the actor too if that would help one they did it you want me to give it to no hold on I'm

[00:10:35] gonna guess that it's George W Bush and that's probably the one they did twice and I think

[00:10:46] the other one maybe is Donald Trump no they never did a Donald Trump state of the union but I

[00:10:53] can tell anyway from SNL archives that and that what they did was in 1978 and 1979 they had

[00:11:02] Dan Acroid do Jimmy Carter John Belushi was Tip O'Neill Bill Murray was Walter Mondale and then

[00:11:08] in January 30th 2010 Fred Harmison was Barack Obama Jason Sudakis was Joe Biden Kristen Wigg

[00:11:16] with Nancy Pelosi so and then they had this one here yeah surprise they never did W yeah I am too

[00:11:24] a little bit because you know Wilfero was such a good W that I thought they could but they

[00:11:29] they honestly good for them because I think back at some of their political sketches from those

[00:11:35] those days there are some really creative ones maybe they didn't need to go that simple not to say

[00:11:41] that it's like like one of the things I liked about the one from this week is it wasn't just

[00:11:46] it wasn't just Joe Biden doing Joe Biden you know yeah I'm a kid I do and Joe Biden they have

[00:11:51] wonder if it's on it on if it's just purely coincidence to that maybe the state of the union fell

[00:11:56] on a week when they didn't have a new episode of SNL so it's not a time they got around to it

[00:12:01] it was just like no we don't need to touch that because it's like a week and a half later

[00:12:04] yeah the state of union used to be more in January and then yeah it's February or March even so

[00:12:11] obviously this was a March so all right moving on monologue by Josh Brolin returning as host for

[00:12:16] the third time in his first appearance in 12 years actor Josh Brolin reads a poem he wrote about

[00:12:21] Timothy Shalameh and shares his thoughts on trends but also featured Keenan Thompson doing

[00:12:26] Keenan Thompson facial expressions which is just my favorite thing that Keenan does

[00:12:31] he can in just he's such a good physical comedian that he can just look into a camera and give

[00:12:39] that a look and it just saves us a sketch or a monologue he did really well there what did you

[00:12:44] think about Josh Brolin does he really write poetry by the way yeah actually so this is this

[00:12:48] is a funny thing because the poetry that he wrote for this like Dune coffee table book that came out

[00:12:54] late last year or maybe it was earlier this year but yeah like that poem he read about Timothy Shalameh

[00:13:00] his real poem that he gave to Timothy Shalameh and everyone thought it was kind of weird

[00:13:05] so yeah it was it was funny to see him poke some fun at that and then do a poem for Keenan as well

[00:13:11] and it was nice to see that Berlin has a sense of humor about stuff like that

[00:13:16] I thought this was a simple monologue it wasn't you know there was nothing too complicated they didn't

[00:13:21] need to be too flashy but I thought it really worked for Josh Brolin's personality like it was a

[00:13:27] nice monologue that I enjoyed nothing hilarious but I enjoyed it yeah all right bank robbery a

[00:13:37] couple I'll play by Josh Brolin and Heidi Gardner it's too bad that our co-host Ben Conn and

[00:13:43] which isn't here because I'm gonna guess he loved Heidi in this one I'm trying to get the

[00:13:48] listen to him drool probably basically that's all he wouldn't be able to talk

[00:13:52] so Josh Brolin and Heidi Gardner are a couple that were interrupts a robbery at the bank it

[00:13:58] also features Bo and Yang as the bank manager Agawotim and Collouc Feynman as bank employees in

[00:14:03] Devon Walker James Austin Johnson and Marcel Hernandez as bank robbers what did you think of this

[00:14:08] this was this was pretty silly I love the sketch I love the Josh Brolin and Heidi Gardner in it

[00:14:16] I loved how heightened they were about you know be acting like they were nervous about being held

[00:14:21] up and like not wanting to be man-handled but clearly wanting to be man-handled I like the the slight

[00:14:30] you know and sometimes not so slight gay energy that Josh Brolin gave off especially when talking

[00:14:36] about the rules that allow him to be with men yeah it was just the escalation of it was really

[00:14:44] funny the the fact that they went back to Bo and Yang talking about he wanted to film it and he's

[00:14:50] like that wasn't my idea I also think like pretty early on I'm sure you did as well you kind of

[00:14:59] know where the sketch is going and so when you watch as many as some sketches we have it's not that

[00:15:05] hard to say okay this is this is going to be people that you don't expect to be weird being weird

[00:15:12] and it can get old really quick but their performance is Heidi and Josh Brolin were so good

[00:15:19] and the little one-offs from the robbers and Bo and Yang were funny enough that what could be a

[00:15:27] formulaic kind of sketch I thought came off really really funny I really like this sketch there was

[00:15:33] a great physicality to their performances too just from you know the various poses they put

[00:15:38] themselves in that were intentionally provocative and Josh Brolin's scream when he bends over the

[00:15:44] bank table was so good see yeah Heidi Gardner is limber that is for sure and Josh Brolin

[00:15:53] and took note of that Josh Brolin second sketch he takes his clothes off so there you go

[00:16:03] and took note of that as well how about all right moving on airplane song two men played by Josh

[00:16:09] Brolin and the introduce me sing a song about watching a movie on an airplane also if you just

[00:16:13] Chloe Trost is the flight attendant if you're gonna have a song you're gonna probably put Chloe

[00:16:17] Trost in it now and Marcel Hernandez are sorry and Kenan Thompson was in as well so

[00:16:24] songs can be really really great and I typically end up loving the songs that they have on SNL

[00:16:31] and this was a this wasn't a bad angle either for a song because I have actually done the very

[00:16:37] thing that Andrew to some mucs is singing about but for some reason it just didn't hit me I didn't

[00:16:45] think it was great the song was okay like it wasn't like you know it wasn't like the song was a

[00:16:51] bobb or anything it was fine I don't know it just didn't hit me right what do you think yeah

[00:16:56] I'm kind of in the same boat because hi the more I thought about it the more I feel like this maybe

[00:17:01] shouldn't have been a musical sketch it didn't feel like it was necessary to do a gag about it and

[00:17:07] to have it be musical I did like the like the production vibe and the design of it by making

[00:17:13] it feel like a Michael Bolton-esque music video but otherwise like yeah the song wasn't catchy

[00:17:19] and it just it didn't feel like you had to turn this into a song I feel there's probably some

[00:17:25] other way you can use this concept and put it into sketch form but I don't think this was

[00:17:31] the way to do it it just it was it was strange and not like in a way that paid off

[00:17:36] yeah there there was never the thing that got me either um I like I thought it was clever and

[00:17:41] that it was something that I think many of us that have flown on planes have done where

[00:17:46] I start watching somebody else's screen or uh these kind of things and so you you've got

[00:17:50] to hook there you've got the weird thing that we all do that we don't talk about but there was

[00:17:56] there wasn't ever a time in the sketch where I was just captivated by it so yeah and it also

[00:18:01] was such a weird choice for the movie to be add aster of all things was that just was that the

[00:18:08] funny thing though I mean was that like this is it's gonna get ad aster I think it was a more

[00:18:15] more amusing than like laugh out loud funny because it was just such a random choice for that

[00:18:20] to be the movie yeah yeah for sure um but whatever I don't think it was bad just just not my favorite song

[00:18:28] and then also putting Chloe Trost at the end there to just do like a vocal run um you're gonna

[00:18:35] you're gonna wear Chloe Trost out I think they're not herself but using her it's gonna it's gonna

[00:18:42] viewers are not gonna they're gonna start rolling their eyes on some of that because it's like

[00:18:46] I don't really know what she was doing there other than she had a really good vocal run at the end

[00:18:50] but um all right um this one this one hit me because I am an admitted pleapopleaser

[00:18:57] the people pleaser support group a group of people played by Josh Brolin Ariana Grande

[00:19:01] Boeing Yang Mikey Day Sarah Sherman and Molly Carney attended support group for people pleasing

[00:19:06] also featured Heidi Gardner now I am a people pleaser uh I it's something I to be quite honest

[00:19:13] I work on even in therapy I like making people happy and when people aren't happy

[00:19:18] it makes me uncomfortable and it just there's all kinds of things that I want to do to help make

[00:19:22] people happy so some of these things were really funny for me because I had felt some of these things

[00:19:29] I don't I've learned to make decisions so I don't get paralyzed in the the in between of not

[00:19:33] making decisions but what did you think of this one did you find it funny is it just really kind

[00:19:39] of funny for people that are people pleasers um I think it's probably funnier for people who are

[00:19:44] people pleasers because I thought that's the sketch was amusing but not laughing if you don't like it

[00:19:49] that's fine that's fine that's fine if you don't like it's fine I um I felt like it was kind

[00:19:55] of like a one trick pony throughout and it was basically the same joke repeated over and over again

[00:19:59] and so that's why it was only amusing to me and to me this was like the definition like oh that was

[00:20:03] that was a nice sketch you know I chuckled like here and there politely uh but the only thing

[00:20:09] that really made me laugh out loud was seeing Molly Carney with that terrible haircut looking so

[00:20:14] cheapish I'm not kidding you have done the same thing I have done that before where my barber

[00:20:19] cut my hair is like well how's it look I've been too afraid to say anything because I don't want

[00:20:24] to make them here's the money you gotta go yeah that's exactly what it was and and like I try

[00:20:29] to fix it at home by myself because I don't I don't want them to feel bad that they gave me a bad

[00:20:33] haircut even though I'm paying for it but uh I just thought that was hilarious I thought by

[00:20:38] Garnie's uh expression there or performance was just so funny and again it was relatable if

[00:20:44] you're a people pleaser but it was certainly a one note sketch that uh I'm not sure had the

[00:20:50] staying power for the whole what three or four minutes that it was yeah so all right moving on

[00:20:56] wine and cheese night a couple played by Andrew Smith's are Sherman host so wine and cheese night

[00:21:01] for their friends uh Josh Brolin, Heidi Gardner, Ego Woden, Michael Longfellow and Devon Walker

[00:21:09] this is this is where Josh Brolin I thought he became a good host to

[00:21:15] made me laugh a lot um when hey and there was great escalation this too so when he starts talking

[00:21:25] about ripping a little ass that whole section I'm laughing just thinking about it just started

[00:21:32] making me laugh so hard and then Ego admitting that yes she did fart but very you know only once

[00:21:40] and I just love the escalation of this I loved Josh Brolin the stupid cat that is like robotic or

[00:21:48] something it was silly I like this what did you think yeah this this felt like a 10 to 1 sketch

[00:21:54] in the middle of the episode because it's it's almost like it takes place in like a quasi alternate

[00:21:59] reality where like the world is just slightly a skew from the weirdo world because there's no way

[00:22:05] that they didn't know that cat looked so weird and so fake like it's it'd be easy to get a much more

[00:22:12] realistic looking cat that has a little bit of animatronics in it but it looked like a cartoon robot

[00:22:18] so that in itself was was funny to me and then yeah the way that Brolin's like reaction to what's

[00:22:24] happening continues and escalates and gets worst and then shifts into the farting I was just so

[00:22:31] in transpired the way he was speaking and also when he said I left so hard when he said oh you're

[00:22:36] telling me you're not blowing cheese smoke over there and that cushion even just once

[00:22:40] and just the way he said it was so good and so this was the sketch where he says your cat's a slot

[00:22:49] where he's just like what he says is so offended like so like offended by it like it just his

[00:22:55] performance was so good I just thought it was hilarious so this was the sketch where it kind of

[00:22:59] clicked for me I was like what what does he he sounds like like someone in his delivery

[00:23:05] of lines in the way he's playing these characters and I realized that he basically feels like

[00:23:09] the son of John Malkovich he has a very similar way of speaking he has a similar voice

[00:23:16] and the way that he spoke throughout especially in this sketch and the bank robbery sketch

[00:23:21] was had a very Malkovich intonation to it because because Malkovich like kind of similar to

[00:23:27] Christopher Walken has a very specific way that he talks and enunciates and Josh Brolin has a

[00:23:32] little bit of that especially when he's doing characters like this that are just like a little

[00:23:37] bit effeminate even and so hearing that in this I was just like oh yeah like that's what it is

[00:23:42] and so if you hear that like throughout the rest of the evening like it's kind of adds

[00:23:47] this extra layer of peculiarity to his characters and I kind of made it funnier in that way

[00:23:53] it's kind of hard because we can talk about those other guys compared to Josh Brolin Josh Brolin

[00:23:58] such a better looking guy so when you compare their voices to him I'm like I don't know if I get

[00:24:02] that but I bet if you take what you see and strip it apart from like you know what you're hearing

[00:24:08] you're right he does have some really interesting intonations and obviously you know he was in W

[00:24:15] he I wonder if he's a skilled or at least somewhat of an amateur impressionist as well because

[00:24:22] he seems to be able to make his voice do certain things but in a very limited way because

[00:24:28] I don't think that he has a phenomenal amount of range when it comes to like at least at least

[00:24:33] comedically it doesn't seem like he has a really wide variety of like characters he can play

[00:24:39] comedically because like he can do interesting things with his voice when he's like really tapped

[00:24:44] into a dramatic performance but it doesn't feel like he was quite able to do that with these

[00:24:49] different characters throughout the sketches on SNL yeah I just want to give a shout out I don't know

[00:24:56] who the writers were on this one I'm gonna guess it was Sarah Sherman had something to do with it

[00:25:01] I don't know but because it was pretty weird um but I want to give a shout out because

[00:25:07] wonderful use of escalation I was not expecting the fart jokes to come in there and in 42 years old

[00:25:14] and fart jokes still make no laugh so I'm gonna be adding blowing cheese smoke to my repertoire for sure

[00:25:20] all right um let's go to a pre-tap shrimp tower a man played by Josh Brolin I think this

[00:25:28] actually was Sarah Sherman that wrote this with the please answer show guys a man played by Josh

[00:25:32] Brolin discovers a new way to display shrimp at his lavish party also featured James Austin Johnson

[00:25:38] Andrew Smokes Mikey Day Sarah Sherman and Kenat Thompson Andrew Smokes in this sketch reached his 200th

[00:25:46] sketch on Saturday live so congrats to Andrew Smokes kind of crazy I kind of still view him as

[00:25:53] a somewhat new guy to SNL right not as newest the please don't destroy guys but he doesn't seem

[00:25:59] like a veteran but 200 sketches is a lot of sketches so good for him um so what did you think this was

[00:26:05] kind of a uh the setting was uh kind of like a a Bridgerton type of setting you know um that Netflix does

[00:26:13] a lot of shows I thought down to Abby it could be something in there you know in that vein and uh

[00:26:22] I thought Josh Brolin was hilarious in this Sarah Sherman was good too as the kind of relief some

[00:26:29] of the other guys for their comments were fine but Josh Brolin his his ability to get offended

[00:26:36] makes me laugh so much and he's he gets offended in this just like he does in the uh in the

[00:26:43] wine and cheese night but in a different kind of way because he's playing a different character

[00:26:46] and with a slightly different accent but it maybe laugh quite a bit I liked this pre-taped what do you

[00:26:51] think uh yeah I agree hard I think this was probably um my second favorite sketch of the night I think

[00:27:00] and yeah the way Josh Brolin plays it is good and I I think that when he's given a chance like

[00:27:08] in pre-record to perfected character then he has a little bit more uh flexibility

[00:27:13] into as far as his his portrayal um but yeah the the escalation here and the absurdity was

[00:27:19] so perfect just how worried he was about the shrimp tower and just going directly to pushing her

[00:27:23] out of the window and I love the casual nature with which he chucks that champagne bottle out

[00:27:28] the window to knock her off the tree when she's trying to get back up um yeah just perfect perfect

[00:27:34] combination of Sarah Sherman and please don't destroy his comedic sensibilities in this one

[00:27:39] yeah I thought this was a really well written really well pulled off

[00:27:44] silly enough that you know Sarah Sherman's kind of coming back uh at the end there where you

[00:27:50] kind of think he's maybe killed her or something and no I love you you know it's your commitment

[00:27:56] to protect the shrimp is showing me that you you love deeply or something it was just

[00:28:01] I really love it that was great all right uh let's move on to Shonda Talk Show a woman

[00:28:05] played by Heidi Gardner goes on a talk show to find out if her boyfriend played by Josh Brolin

[00:28:09] is cheating honor also featured Ego WoWdom as Shonda and punky Johnson Marcel Hernandez

[00:28:15] Sarah Sherman and Ken Thompson as audience members I don't think they've done Shonda before

[00:28:20] heavily this isn't like a recurring is it I didn't think it was anyway no I don't think that

[00:28:26] they've done this specific talk show before so uh the whole kind of if you've watched

[00:28:33] SNL or if you didn't the whole premise of the joke for this sketch is Heidi Gardner's talking about

[00:28:39] you know kind of the the deadbeat boyfriend she has and uh she finds out then as Josh Brolin comes

[00:28:46] out he's in a wheelchair an automated wheelchair and he she broke his neck and the audience members

[00:28:53] all of a sudden really switch over from siding with her deciding with him and feeling this awkwardness

[00:28:59] about you know well they want it because because Heidi Gardner's making it seem like you know she's

[00:29:04] the victim in this and and they kind of turnover I thought it was fine I there was some some funny

[00:29:11] lines in here but it had no escalation to me it like it just kind of you saw where it was going

[00:29:16] and you it was like paint by numbers okay so I know there's four more cast members that are sitting

[00:29:22] in the audience so I know there's going to be four more times where they're going to go nope I'm

[00:29:26] out kind of thing inside in a different way and whenever I know that a sketch is going to just

[00:29:32] follow away formula and I figured the formula out too early I can't enjoy it that much what did you

[00:29:37] think yeah I thought that so so there was a sketch that we talked about a while back when Adam

[00:29:43] driver hosted SNL where there was a long lead into a great payoff and it was a sketch that didn't

[00:29:49] make it to air and that's part of the reason it didn't and this felt it was kind of a slightly

[00:29:54] truncated version of that where they had this long lead into what was a surprising reveal but the

[00:29:59] reveal itself wasn't nearly as good as it was in that Adam driver sketch and then what followed

[00:30:05] wasn't worth the wait because it was that thing where once it was revealed that was the big joke

[00:30:12] and there wasn't really anything that was that much funnier afterwards there was a couple audience

[00:30:16] reactions from Keenan you know that were that we're amusing at least but otherwise it just didn't

[00:30:22] feel like it earned taking the time to get to that point yeah I agree Heidi Gardner plays

[00:30:30] characters like this on on weekend update and different things the the kind of trashy blonde

[00:30:37] hottie and so it wasn't she wasn't doing anything that I don't think we haven't seen before in

[00:30:43] different ways so it was just kind of put together in a different package so all right we

[00:30:50] get update with Colin Joes to Michael Che we get update anchors Colin Joes to Michael Che

[00:30:53] tackle the bicks the weakest biggest news like Marjorie Taylor Green heckling Joe Biden during the

[00:30:59] state of the Union address Democrats criticizing Biden for calling immigrants illegals and Republicans

[00:31:04] Senator Katie Brits video response them each week we asked Brad about his predominant or where

[00:31:10] the chemistry was from the hosts this doesn't necessarily indicate though it probably has something

[00:31:16] to do with the overall quality but this is not about the overall quality of weekend update this is

[00:31:23] just about the two hosts and whether or not they had good emotional spiritual and sexual chemistry

[00:31:29] during the weekend update Ben is a lot better at this I'm just going to say that and our listeners

[00:31:37] know this I get it wrong 99% of the time hey because Ben gets it wrong a lot too well yeah but

[00:31:45] we're both wrong but he gets it closer but anyway I thought this was really good I thought there

[00:31:49] was some really funny I love it when they're like a joke's not working or tough crowd kind of thing

[00:31:56] because they do it so well they like Michael Che knows how to do it and there's a way that Colin

[00:32:03] Joe's to receive that and gives it back that's that's really funny so I'm gonna go with an 80 what

[00:32:08] did what would you say now I would have given it more of a 70 because well I did like that it wasn't

[00:32:14] necessarily creating a spark between them as like friends like they had they shared a couple

[00:32:20] knowing glances and like reacting to the reaction that was the audience reaction if that makes sense

[00:32:28] so like there were some of that but it wasn't like the kind of you know buddy buddy dynamic that I

[00:32:34] like to see them have where they are like busting each other's tops and like directly addressing

[00:32:37] each other it was this was a little more somewhere in between where it was kind of but not exactly

[00:32:44] you know being interactive with each other okay and this was the first time I think

[00:32:54] since 2022 so February of 2022 that it was the jama lany episode that there was no

[00:33:04] guest commentaries or bits during weekend update yeah I was wondering how long it had been since

[00:33:10] that it happened because it's very rare two years two years when jama lany host was the last time

[00:33:15] that they didn't have anybody there and because the totality of weekend update was only like six and a

[00:33:21] half minutes that's why we got a total of 10 sketches for across this episode which is a pretty big

[00:33:27] number of sketches for an episode of SNL so overall then what do you think of that because it wasn't

[00:33:32] a really long a monologue either right Josh Rowland came in did stuff and then he was out I thought

[00:33:39] even though the cold open is always fairly long I thought they hit the mark on that one as well

[00:33:46] with length that's the one from me cold open always goes like a minute too long yeah I actually think that

[00:33:53] despite the fact that they had so many sketches it worked in their favor because none of the sketches

[00:33:58] overstayed their welcome so you weren't super bored by any of the sketches that maybe you weren't

[00:34:03] so great you didn't have any that were good but then went on too long all them were like roughly

[00:34:09] around four four minutes teetering occasionally towards the five min area and I think that's

[00:34:14] that's the sweet spot and so for the most part it worked in their favor and it also allowed them

[00:34:19] to have like a pretty wide variety of sketches they thankfully they only did one talk show sketch

[00:34:24] they didn't do a game show sketch which was surprising considering the number of sketches they fit

[00:34:29] in but it allowed them to do like you know very different types of comedy and premises to

[00:34:36] show you know a lot more original attempts at getting the laughs yeah all right moving on move on

[00:34:44] Rouge PBS host Kent and burnt play by makey day takes a look back at the 2001 film Mulan Rouge

[00:34:50] starting to cold kibmen played by musical guest Ariana Grande and you and my greck are played by

[00:34:56] bow and yang this was this was so much fun now I do have to admit that I love the film Mulan Rouge

[00:35:03] I used to watch it so 2001 I was in college and as you can imagine a bunch of college guys watching

[00:35:08] this film and just falling in love with Nicole kibmen over and over again but and I like musical

[00:35:16] theater as our listeners for go flick yourself no so I thought this was really funny I love the idea

[00:35:23] of bringing in more modern songs into this because you've never seen Mulan Rouge the film play by

[00:35:28] boss lerman it is it is a musical built around somewhat modern songs not completely in 2000 but

[00:35:36] you know pop songs from 2000 or 1970-1989 and it weaves it in there and a lot of them they kind

[00:35:44] of bring snippets of songs and so the way they did that was very reminiscent of the actual movie

[00:35:50] and musical and it looked like bow and yang and Ariana Grande were having a lot of fun what did

[00:35:55] you think of this for the most part I enjoyed it it did feel like the musical aspect was a little

[00:36:02] more clumsy than I would have appreciated but that also did somewhat add to the charm because

[00:36:08] watching Ariana and bow and yang kind of struggle to keep the song on rhythm occasionally and like

[00:36:15] hitting the cue in the right spot was funny and it made bow and yang crack up a couple times

[00:36:20] and bow and yang is somebody who I love to see crack and sketches just because the green that he gets

[00:36:25] on his face is really infectious not the last time he's gonna do it anything that's happened

[00:36:30] yeah we only have one more sketch um Ariana Grande I thought did a pretty good job she

[00:36:34] she has pretty good comedic timing she's she's a solid actress when it's a when it's called for

[00:36:39] and since you know it's it's musically inclined it worked in her favor as well um the weakest

[00:36:44] aspect honestly and this one unfortunately was Josh Brolin who didn't feel like he made he made

[00:36:48] he made he didn't make a single like effort to try and sound like Jim Broadband as zealot from

[00:36:53] Mulan Rouge which is a way over the top type of character in the movie so yeah I feel like he could

[00:36:58] have so much fun trying to do that yeah yeah um but I did like I said I love when bow and yang has

[00:37:06] fun and I don't know how much longer bow and yang is gonna be on the show I hope a lot longer

[00:37:11] but he's in my favorite of just having a lot of fun now and I love it good my favorite uh

[00:37:18] fake out and this was when they made it sound like they were gonna put their naked ladies one

[00:37:22] week into it and then just veered veered away from it but like I said I don't think there was

[00:37:30] I think there was some okay sketches I think Shonda was okay I think people please their support

[00:37:37] group was okay I didn't think anything there was bad but it was just okay I don't think there

[00:37:42] was a really a bad sketch in this episode which is something saying something uh so I think Shonda

[00:37:49] was on the the cusp of being bad okay I think it was the worst one I yeah we've seen some really

[00:37:57] bad sketches that I can't say that one for sure there's some there's some singers that are infinitely

[00:38:02] worse than Shonda was yeah yeah yeah I agree all right um moving on last one and then I Lisa

[00:38:08] from Temecula they bring that back for the third time I think uh sports bar Lisa from Temecula

[00:38:14] play about ego-woldem disrupts a group of friends played by Josh Brolin Boan Yang,

[00:38:18] funky Johnson and Chloe Trost um Lisa from Temecula is something I think did they they created last

[00:38:24] season is that right uh I think it was last season was it was with Peter Paschal was the first one so

[00:38:31] yeah so they had Pedro Paschal on and then they had another armus on as well in April of 2023

[00:38:40] then they bring it back almost a year later here and um the the I think we talked about this in

[00:38:48] in the unadermis sketch it is hard to recapture magic from a sketch that happened the first time

[00:38:58] and that first sketch with Pedro Paschal was magic it was so funny uh you had the right amount of

[00:39:06] breaking and it it just it was a new character I thought the second one was okay it was it not good

[00:39:14] the one thing I loved about this one was the breaking Boan Yang broke and they apparently according

[00:39:23] to everything I read online they moved some cute cute cards around and they put some cute cards that

[00:39:30] the uh the cast members didn't know we're gonna be in there and so when they're laughing it's because

[00:39:37] they did not expect those lines to come from Lisa and and so maybe on on the surface it doesn't

[00:39:44] make the sketch all that much funnier and dialogue but when the cast breaks because they're having fun

[00:39:50] it doesn't matter I enjoyed it what do you think of this one yeah so I I wrote in my review

[00:39:56] on slashthrome.com that the Lisa from Domencula already had diminishing returns in that second and

[00:40:02] second one because you're trying to recapture what was funny about a sketch that worked so well

[00:40:08] because certain things made the cast laugh and it's stuff that wasn't planned it wasn't that the sketch

[00:40:15] was so funny that like you're trying to recapture the magic of making a sketch that good again

[00:40:20] is trying to capture something that just happened by pure you know coincidence essentially

[00:40:25] and so the second time it didn't feel like it worked for a while and this time I was just like oh no

[00:40:29] how's this gonna go and I do still do think that the character herself is not necessarily

[00:40:36] better because it feels like it's getting more contrived as to how they're going to figure out

[00:40:41] how they're gonna make the table shake uncontrollably and have it make sense and so this time it's

[00:40:46] her trying to erase a check within an erasable pen which is fine it's still enough that it still

[00:40:52] works but but for me what saved it like you said is the fact that they broke and bow and yang

[00:40:59] cracked up more than I have ever seen I think a cast member like downright laugh at a joke maybe

[00:41:06] other than Bill Hader Estafon he gaffod when Egon Wotum said Negro divergent like he could not

[00:41:15] hold it in he laughed out loud and like it was it was so funny and such a genuine moment that like

[00:41:22] it brought me back around on it I agree it was it isn't the era of or you know like the time

[00:41:32] of catchphrases isn't really it's past it's not a big deal anymore and so this is a sketch that

[00:41:38] kind of involves like you said a certain type of physical comedy that was really popular

[00:41:45] in the 90s this is like a Chris Farley thing right where you you just yeah Chris Farley going

[00:41:50] there and breaking other table and everyone laughs right and that type of humor doesn't do as well

[00:41:55] anymore I still laugh at it and I laugh at Chris Farley when I watch the clip still but it is not

[00:42:01] the you know we talk about this before weird kind of humor usually does better if you look at

[00:42:07] different other sketch comedy shows weird usually does better especially with a younger audience

[00:42:14] but if you're gonna do this have fun with it and they did and so you know it I enjoyed it

[00:42:22] Bo Nyang said Alex English changed the cue cards after dress your her soul and he is going to

[00:42:28] hell for it that's so great because I wrote in my review that I was like there's no way

[00:42:35] that they didn't change like at least this line on Bo and because his laugh was too like loud

[00:42:41] and spontaneous for him to know that line was coming it was they used to John Mulaney used to do

[00:42:47] that for Stefan right yeah with where he'd changed the lines and that's where you get so much of

[00:42:53] the joking as an L you know SNL cast members like to laugh and so they get so good at their job

[00:43:02] where they perform so well but there are also silly people usually and so when they when

[00:43:06] when they're having fun it's just good it's it's fun to see it come out and it's something that

[00:43:11] they don't do like a lot to like make it you know an easy laugh or like to try and mix things up

[00:43:17] like it happens very very rarely and so when it happens and it works as well as it does you know

[00:43:23] it's if you get something a great moment like this yeah because you run the risk also of the

[00:43:28] Pete Davidson Jimmy Fallon thing where you start breaking in a sketch where you think it's not

[00:43:33] going that well and the breaking then you think that that's gonna make the audience laugh if you

[00:43:39] break but it did you could see through it right if you watch it you could see through that this is

[00:43:46] not a genuine break it is just them trying to play up a little bit but when Bo and Yang did

[00:43:51] it was it was certainly he was having fun and it was he was losing it all right next a man played

[00:43:57] by Josh Polon gets offended when a group of people played by Sarah Sherman Chloe Feynman

[00:44:01] Marcel Hernandez and Andrew do you speak want to try something different for lunch this I thought

[00:44:09] was a funny sketch for the first two minutes and then the next two and a half minutes I thought

[00:44:15] it was only just okay what did you think of this I thought it was a little long and it didn't work

[00:44:22] as well for me I'd put this on one of the lower sketches of the night yeah the this one was I think

[00:44:28] the only one that was really ruined by timing the music cue of the Billie Eilishong didn't always

[00:44:34] go into a supposed to but Roland felt particularly stilted during this one I like the vibe of the sketch

[00:44:41] because it did feel like a genuine 10 to 1 sketch then it was actually in you know the 10 to 1 slot

[00:44:48] really but yeah this one just didn't feel like it landed for me yeah we either good trying

[00:44:56] just not not well enough execution let's go with your favorite favorite sketch what was your

[00:45:02] favorite sketch on the night my favorite sketch was the bank robbery that was that was the funniest

[00:45:08] one to me and I thought Heidi Gardner and Josh Rollin were hilarious in it I'm gonna go with

[00:45:13] shrimp tower I just thought the whole thing was just hilarious it made me laugh quite a bit

[00:45:18] and I liked it all right what was your MVP so I had I had a tough choice but my so mine for me

[00:45:28] was a toss up between Heidi Gardner and Bowen Yang I think Heidi Gardner probably gets it because

[00:45:34] she had a little bit more of a prominent role to play and she was funnier in bigger roles but Bowen

[00:45:41] Yang brief appearances were also funny enough that they it's still like stuck with me after watching

[00:45:46] the entire episode so yeah let's go through and read the sketches at each each one of them were in

[00:45:53] obviously State of the Union Heidi Gardner played Marjorie Taylor Green she was in bank robbery

[00:46:01] played a really prominent role not one really was one of the funniest parts of that

[00:46:05] she was the moderator in the People Please Your Support Group she was one of the guests in the

[00:46:10] wine and she's night again in both of those she's not the major feature but she certainly was part

[00:46:17] of that and then she's the major kind of feature in Shonda Heidi Gardner was also in sandwich king as

[00:46:23] them the mother and then we've got Bowen Yang and let me do this real quick I'm using snl archives.net

[00:46:31] a great site if you're an sml fan to go through we got Bowen Yang as the manager in bank robbery which

[00:46:37] again not as big as Heidi Gardner but he's still hilarious and and he's Charlie and the People Please

[00:46:44] Your Support Group he is Christian and I is that how no what how did they say that Bowen

[00:46:54] move on Rouge Christian yeah it's Christian it's Christian okay and the movie musical masterpieces

[00:47:01] and then he is the friend and Lisa from Temecula you know going through that I actually had Bowen

[00:47:08] Yang's number one but going through that I agree I even at least is from Temecula

[00:47:14] Bowen Yang is best part about that is breaking and he does it very honestly and finally but like

[00:47:18] it is not necessarily he's not carrying that sketch so I'm gonna go with you all go with Heidi Gardner

[00:47:23] as well I thought she had a really great night but Bowen Yang did as well and I go well to him always

[00:47:28] has a you know I didn't love this Shonda sketch but she does great work and I always want to give

[00:47:33] her a shout out too because she's in like oftentimes 70% of the sketches and often has a substantial

[00:47:41] to a to a significant role in the sketches so shout out to her as well yeah I agree with that

[00:47:49] all right let's say I do have a couple questions for you so I was watching the Oscars last night I

[00:47:54] know you watched as well and Robert Dany Jr. won an Oscar for his performance in Avonheimer what do

[00:48:02] you think of him coming back to host would you love that or not yeah of course that would be

[00:48:07] it would be a meeting to have him and host again has he not hosted like at all recently

[00:48:15] um I'm gonna look this up but I don't he's host he hosted once

[00:48:21] and he hosted in November 1996 yeah wow yeah so that would be with us go guest Fiona Apple

[00:48:29] yeah oh that was that was that was the episode that Bob Dole and Elizabeth Dole and the

[00:48:34] Evander Holyfield made a cameo I remember that episode wow that's a that's a deep cut um but yeah

[00:48:41] I I would love to see him come back and host especially considering his history uh what's

[00:48:47] that around alive and the success he's reached now they have so many opportunities to do a lot of

[00:48:51] fun things with him so yeah to have him come back maybe he's just not interested maybe he's been too

[00:48:55] busy um but yeah if there was ever a time to do it like now would be a great time that's why I was

[00:49:01] watching I'm like you know what he is the first SNL cast member to win an Oscar award so I thought

[00:49:07] it'd be fun uh it'd be fun to have him back as uh as a host also um it's been seven years I think

[00:49:18] going on seven years since Ryan Gasling was on loved to bring him back as well

[00:49:24] I think it'd be great to have that so wild but it's been that long because it doesn't feel like

[00:49:27] it's been that long but there you go he's only been on twice but anyone else you want to

[00:49:32] throw in there who you want to see um I mean he I don't think he's hosted it all yet but I'm

[00:49:39] always pulling for them to bring him the honor to Capriota host he he made a cameo once when

[00:49:43] Jonah Hill hosted but I don't appreciate he still hasn't hosted himself that would be fun

[00:49:49] that would be fun um but yeah uh so do we know who are next who the next host is going to be

[00:49:56] um yes they announced that it's going to be uh Rami Yusef who is a Stan and comedian he's also the

[00:50:04] star of his own show called Rami on Hulu uh he won a Golden Globe um I think his show is also

[00:50:11] Emmy nominated if I remember correctly I don't know if it won any Emmys but yeah this is uh the third

[00:50:19] comedian that they've done uh this year where more general audiences may not be familiar with who

[00:50:26] they are following Nate Bargazzi and Shane Gillis um I would say that Nate Bargazzi is probably the

[00:50:31] most famous of the three um and I toss up as to whether people know who Rami Yusef or Shane Gillis

[00:50:39] is probably uh you know I you know that I hate hate it when you're wrong but it'll be the fourth

[00:50:47] stand-up comedian oh who's there oh well P Davidson but I was talking about he's he's very well known

[00:50:53] and he was a former guy or so he I don't know yeah but it is interesting though four

[00:50:58] stand-up comedians in one season is I mean it is significant and I don't know if that um obviously

[00:51:05] Rami Yusef P Davidson they've got other things that they've got going on they're not just stand-up

[00:51:09] comedians like Shane Gillis and Nate Bargazzi um but that is that is a lot of stand-up comedians and I

[00:51:16] wonder if they're gonna do more of that in the future uh because I'd be that be interesting there's

[00:51:20] a lot of stand-up comedians uh that you and I and Ben follow that haven't necessarily worked into a

[00:51:26] successful acting career or maybe don't even like Nate Bargazzi that don't necessarily want

[00:51:31] an acting career but I would love to see them on the show so um I'd love to see what they have

[00:51:37] to they have to bring back John Malay to you because I feel like he just needs to host at least once

[00:51:41] a year yeah for sure so I think we're on a three week or two week break and then we'll be back with

[00:51:47] new episodes correct uh yes that's true March 30th is when the Rami Yusef episode will be airing

[00:51:56] all right well we're gonna take another break um and we'll be back in a couple weeks uh Brad

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