Episode 81 - Chris Rock (Season 50)

[00:00:00] You got some dollars in my pocket? Pocket? Pocket? Go! After you stop moving your fucking mic stand.

[00:00:18] Doing for the end of time, Sam?

[00:00:20] Yeah.

[00:00:23] It's The Ten to One Podcast with your host Brad Oman, featuring Ben Conowitz and Nate Lauxx. And here's the podcast!

[00:00:38] Welcome friends, good to see you. Welcome back to the show. I'm just grateful on this holiday episode.

[00:00:46] You're just so cheery around the holidays.

[00:00:48] To have you with us.

[00:00:49] You love Christmas so much Nate.

[00:00:50] I love it so much. I love it so much. I watch all the movies. All of them.

[00:00:55] You love it so much. You counted how many poinsettias were on the stage.

[00:01:01] What stage?

[00:01:02] On Chris Rock's stage.

[00:01:04] Oh yeah, no, there were 34.

[00:01:07] There was a lot more than that, I think.

[00:01:09] No, no.

[00:01:09] You know what? I'm gonna guess that there were-

[00:01:11] There were a lot of flowers on that stage.

[00:01:13] I don't know. I'm gonna say there were probably about 34.

[00:01:14] Nah.

[00:01:14] Did you count-

[00:01:15] You're talking about 34 like pots?

[00:01:17] Yeah, pots.

[00:01:18] Or like individual flowers?

[00:01:19] Yeah, pots.

[00:01:19] No, pots.

[00:01:20] Oh, okay.

[00:01:20] On the stage.

[00:01:20] No, it was an homage to Miracle on 34th Street. That's why they had 34.

[00:01:24] I don't believe it.

[00:01:26] Yeah, but you don't believe in God.

[00:01:29] That's a good doctor.

[00:01:31] I think we're thinking about Go Flix Yourself on other podcasts where we just start riffing and making fun of each other immediately.

[00:01:36] Well, it was a Chris Rockmas.

[00:01:38] Oh no!

[00:01:40] Ha ha ha ha ha ha.

[00:01:41] Put that in the time field. We're gonna edit that out.

[00:01:43] This is the second to last episode of 2024 for Saturday Night Live in their 50th season.

[00:01:49] I believe this was the ninth episode overall?

[00:01:52] Yes, episode nine.

[00:01:54] Episode nine, hosted by Chris Rock.

[00:01:55] What episode for the total amount of episodes?

[00:01:58] Oh, that's a good question.

[00:02:02] We're inching closer to a thousand.

[00:02:04] I'm gonna say 982.

[00:02:07] I'm gonna say 911.

[00:02:10] In New York City, that's a little rough.

[00:02:12] Oh, yeah, shit.

[00:02:13] So, 977.

[00:02:15] Ah, I win.

[00:02:18] Musical guest Gracie Abrams, who in case you didn't know...

[00:02:21] Stacey Abrams' cousin.

[00:02:22] No, J.J. Abrams' daughter.

[00:02:24] No, is it not?

[00:02:25] Got Nate on that one.

[00:02:27] Oh, political Nate, got him.

[00:02:28] That was good.

[00:02:29] J.J. Abrams' daughter.

[00:02:30] Oh, there we go.

[00:02:31] Yes.

[00:02:32] All right.

[00:02:32] Somebody put on the Reddit, I think on the subreddit, where it was like, you know, it

[00:02:38] must be nice to have a dad where he makes the rest of the world go to your recitals.

[00:02:45] Oh, my God.

[00:02:46] That's so brutal.

[00:02:47] The funny thing is, I mean...

[00:02:48] My daughter loves Gracie Abrams.

[00:02:50] Yeah, and there's a ton of people who...

[00:02:51] It's not like if people...

[00:02:52] She's so good.

[00:02:53] She's so talented.

[00:02:54] Yeah, and also, she doesn't, like, deny the Nepo Baby status she has either.

[00:02:58] It's fine.

[00:02:59] You know, like, you still have to be talented, for the most part, in order to have a reception

[00:03:04] and get a fan base.

[00:03:05] They'll put you in front of people, and those people still get to judge you.

[00:03:09] Yeah.

[00:03:09] You know, and just...

[00:03:10] Yeah, I get it.

[00:03:11] If you get your foot in the door, it's a lot easier.

[00:03:13] Of course it is.

[00:03:14] But you're right, Brad.

[00:03:15] You've got to fucking bring it.

[00:03:16] And especially with that exterior pressure of...

[00:03:18] Or that external pressure of, like, hey, I'm putting my reputation on the line here

[00:03:22] for you.

[00:03:23] So that's just a crazy amount of pressure for that kid.

[00:03:26] Not all the Baldwins were created equal.

[00:03:28] Clearly.

[00:03:29] I mean...

[00:03:29] Who is the least best Baldwin?

[00:03:31] Billy.

[00:03:32] Oh, I don't know.

[00:03:33] It's probably Alec.

[00:03:34] He killed a guy.

[00:03:35] Adam.

[00:03:36] Adam is...

[00:03:37] Oh, he's not a real Baldwin brother, but Adam Baldwin is a piece of shit.

[00:03:42] Yeah, Adam Baldwin sucks.

[00:03:44] For those who don't know, Adam Baldwin played one of the military guys in Independence Day,

[00:03:47] and he was in Firefly.

[00:03:49] He's almost always in a military role.

[00:03:50] Yeah.

[00:03:51] He's probably...

[00:03:52] You know what?

[00:03:52] I don't know if this is true, but he was probably in Small Soldiers.

[00:03:55] That feels like a role that he'd be in.

[00:03:56] No, he wasn't.

[00:03:57] No?

[00:03:57] No.

[00:03:58] Okay, well, I'll try.

[00:03:58] But he's a right-wing dumb fuck.

[00:04:01] Jesus.

[00:04:02] We are gold flixing yourself today, by the way.

[00:04:04] Yeah, this is gold flixing.

[00:04:04] Yeah, this is going to be the Craspers and rocking around the Christmas tree with Chris Rock.

[00:04:08] Chris rocking around the Christmas tree.

[00:04:10] That's what I just said.

[00:04:11] Chris rocking around the Christmas tree.

[00:04:14] I have Chris Rock's house today.

[00:04:15] Now, Brad.

[00:04:17] Did you know...

[00:04:18] Because I know you're the youngest on this podcast.

[00:04:20] Did you know that Chris Rock was a former cast member?

[00:04:23] He's a former cast member.

[00:04:24] Of what?

[00:04:25] In Living Color.

[00:04:27] Saturday Night Live.

[00:04:28] Did you know that?

[00:04:28] No, I didn't even know the show started before 2005.

[00:04:31] This is fun.

[00:04:32] This is a fun bit.

[00:04:33] So, Chris Rock has hosted...

[00:04:35] This is his fourth time.

[00:04:36] The last time was 2016?

[00:04:39] 2020, but good breath.

[00:04:41] 2020.

[00:04:41] Close.

[00:04:42] There's another election here.

[00:04:43] A little nail-biter.

[00:04:46] Here's the thing that I was curious about.

[00:04:48] Chris Rock was a terrible sketch performer when he was on the show, and then you don't do

[00:04:53] it for a long time, and they keep letting him host.

[00:04:56] And I was wondering why.

[00:04:58] Because he's not great at sketches.

[00:05:00] I will say, I don't think Chris Rock was terrible when he was on the show, but it was

[00:05:04] not a strong performance from him.

[00:05:07] Chris Rock found his voice in stand-up.

[00:05:09] For sure.

[00:05:09] He's one of the most influential and tremendous and most hilarious stand-ups of all time,

[00:05:14] and that's, to me, not debatable.

[00:05:16] He is a genius there.

[00:05:19] This is not that, and so that's why I just don't get why he...

[00:05:23] It's like, okay.

[00:05:24] Yeah, no, I don't disagree.

[00:05:25] Let's just let him come on and ruin a lot of...

[00:05:26] I don't disagree with you.

[00:05:28] And yeah, I think as we'll get into and dig into this, we'll talk about how rough this

[00:05:32] episode is, and a lot of it does fall on him.

[00:05:35] Some of it doesn't fall on him, though.

[00:05:37] A lot of it does.

[00:05:39] But one particular part was not his fault at all, actually.

[00:05:42] Okay, we'll talk about all this.

[00:05:44] But yeah, let's just dig in.

[00:05:46] Let's dig into this episode.

[00:05:47] What do we got first?

[00:05:48] We got a Nancy Grace cold open, Nate?

[00:05:50] Yes, we do.

[00:05:51] Cold open, crime stories with Nancy Grace.

[00:05:53] Nancy Grace, played by Sarah Sherman, reports on the latest crime stories.

[00:05:57] It also features Ashley Padilla, Marceau Hernandez, Kenan Thompson, and Emile Walken.

[00:06:04] This is Sarah Sherman's seventh time saying, live from New York.

[00:06:07] She's just a regular at the job now.

[00:06:10] What did you think of, A, this sketch?

[00:06:13] And B, Sarah Sherman doing Nancy Grace, someone that I didn't know still existed?

[00:06:18] I forgot that she actually still has a show.

[00:06:20] Is that on YouTube for real?

[00:06:22] I think she does.

[00:06:22] I'm sure.

[00:06:23] I'm sure.

[00:06:23] I like that Sarah Sherman's Nancy Grace is different from the Nancy Graces that we've

[00:06:29] seen before because she did, she kind of brought a little bit of a Dr. Steve Brule to it by

[00:06:34] adding R's into certain words that don't have that many R's.

[00:06:38] And I like that she leaned more into doing a parody of the way she talks as opposed to-

[00:06:45] Trying to get an exact impression.

[00:06:47] Yeah, exactly.

[00:06:48] It's been done before, yeah.

[00:06:50] Ana Gosteyer did Nancy Grace.

[00:06:52] Amy Poehler's done Nancy Grace.

[00:06:54] Amy Poehler, more than anyone, did Nancy Grace.

[00:06:57] Abby Elliott, Noelle Wells, and now Sarah Sherman.

[00:07:01] Yeah.

[00:07:01] I like this take.

[00:07:02] Yeah, it's a different approach.

[00:07:04] It's a lot of fun.

[00:07:06] And I like that it was relevant and topical without dealing with politics.

[00:07:10] Yeah.

[00:07:11] It was a nice change of pace.

[00:07:12] It didn't necessarily mean that this was great.

[00:07:15] This is better than your standard cold open, and the reason is the format.

[00:07:19] The Marcelo Hernandez coming in and yelling at me was amazing.

[00:07:23] I really like that they decided to do that.

[00:07:26] Yeah, I thought it was fine.

[00:07:27] I didn't think it was great, but I thought it was fine.

[00:07:30] It was nice seeing Sarah Sherman being the one carrying a cold open on her own, basically.

[00:07:35] She crushed it.

[00:07:36] That helmet hair, too.

[00:07:37] Yeah.

[00:07:37] Wow.

[00:07:38] Good job, costume department.

[00:07:40] All right, moving on.

[00:07:41] Monologue.

[00:07:42] As he returns to SNL as a host for the fourth time, former cast member Chris Rock shares

[00:07:46] insights on his stand-up focused on Mike Tyson's bout with Jake Paul, Donald Trump's presidential

[00:07:53] ambitions, and President Biden's decision to pardon his son Hunter.

[00:08:00] This is the first former cast member they've had host in season 50.

[00:08:06] Now, they've had a ton of former cast members on the show, right?

[00:08:09] It's been a hodgepodge of, you know, Dana Carvey hasn't, this is the first episode Dana Carvey

[00:08:16] hasn't been in, honestly.

[00:08:18] And so Chris Rock's obviously known for his stand-up, more so than being on SNL.

[00:08:26] I like Chris Rock as a stand-up comedian.

[00:08:29] I thought this was a little bit of a mess, honestly.

[00:08:32] I didn't think this was great.

[00:08:34] So there's some really sharp stuff in here.

[00:08:36] I thought...

[00:08:37] Sometimes drug dealers get shot.

[00:08:39] Yes.

[00:08:39] Is maybe one of the funniest takes on the whole assassination thing that we've heard, right?

[00:08:47] Yeah.

[00:08:47] That's a great one line.

[00:08:48] It is.

[00:08:48] It doesn't absolve him for the rest of what the fuck was a lot of that.

[00:08:52] But I think that he, I think there's some of the material here is new, and I think that

[00:08:56] he still doesn't have, like, transitions in between them, lockdown and stuff like that,

[00:09:00] because it felt like he was sometimes feeling things and forgot where he was going.

[00:09:03] I do think, as has been a tradition as far as, like, what the best stuff is that Chris Rock

[00:09:08] does, is the racial stuff he did, I think, was on point and really good.

[00:09:12] When he started talking about people being deported and stuff like that, and the joke about

[00:09:16] J-Lo getting back with Ben Affleck just so she doesn't get deported.

[00:09:20] That stuff was really funny.

[00:09:21] But there was a lot of just, like, felt like kind of like stop and go and stilted.

[00:09:25] Yeah, exactly.

[00:09:26] He was kind of sputtering almost, like, trying to figure out where he was going.

[00:09:30] And it was clear that he doesn't have a current set that he's working through.

[00:09:35] The other thing.

[00:09:36] Some of the stuff that seems new.

[00:09:37] Oh, I think that is what he's doing, is he's working through.

[00:09:40] That's what I'm saying.

[00:09:41] Like, this was not him.

[00:09:42] He doesn't have that polished set.

[00:09:43] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:09:43] Him bringing some of his best bits from a current set.

[00:09:45] Right.

[00:09:46] Chris Rock has this, so his comedic voice as a stand-up, he repeats himself.

[00:09:51] A lot during the setup.

[00:09:52] Yeah.

[00:09:53] Right?

[00:09:53] So he'll say something like, you know, a lot of stuff going on in the news.

[00:09:56] A lot of stuff going in on the news.

[00:09:58] And when you're in a truncated five to ten minutes.

[00:10:00] Doesn't work as well.

[00:10:00] It doesn't work as well as when you're in an hour.

[00:10:02] Yeah.

[00:10:02] When it's in an hour and you get to set that up, that expectation for the audience,

[00:10:05] then by half an hour in, it's fun.

[00:10:08] And you're kind of like, oh, this is the vibe.

[00:10:10] It's a good point, Ben.

[00:10:11] It's a little bit.

[00:10:11] You have to be patient with Chris Rock at times, right?

[00:10:13] Because he's going to do that, right?

[00:10:16] He'll get you there.

[00:10:17] And again, I think a lot of that.

[00:10:19] But the setup can be a little bit delayed.

[00:10:21] And not because he's setting something up.

[00:10:23] He just kind of takes a second to get into it.

[00:10:26] There's a lot of comedians that are like that.

[00:10:27] Unless it's Mitch Hedberg or Steven Wright up there or Demetri Martin telling one-liners,

[00:10:32] it's really hard for a lot of these stand-ups to truncate.

[00:10:34] That's Bill Burr's struggles, too.

[00:10:36] Because Bill Burr's that guy that pisses you off and then wins you back.

[00:10:38] You can't really do that in eight and a half to 11 minutes.

[00:10:40] And we saw him not really do all that well in his stand-up spot there.

[00:10:45] So I feel like this, I wouldn't say that you judge a stand-up based on their performance on SNL at the same time.

[00:10:54] Chris Rock and Bill Burr, they've been doing it long enough that you would think that they know how to change up a little bit

[00:10:58] so that it's a little smoother.

[00:10:59] Yeah.

[00:11:00] Agreed.

[00:11:01] All right.

[00:11:02] Moving on.

[00:11:02] Mall Santa's a mall elf portrayed by Chris Rock offers parents played by Mikey Day, Heidi Gardner,

[00:11:09] Andrew Desmukes, Ashley Padilla, Sarah Sherman, and Chloe Fineman an unusual option before snapping their photo with Santa

[00:11:18] played by Devin Walker.

[00:11:20] Emile Walken plays Arab Santa, and Jane Wickline takes on the role of Santa number three.

[00:11:27] So the premise of this sketch is there's a black Santa and a white Santa,

[00:11:32] and it's talking about the preferences that people have for white Santa.

[00:11:37] Which photo would you like to forever represent Christmas in your home?

[00:11:41] I think this was maybe the best or at least one of the best performances by Chris Rock.

[00:11:48] He didn't have to do a ton, but what they needed him to do, he did pretty well here.

[00:11:54] And I thought this sketch was pretty funny.

[00:11:56] I liked it.

[00:11:57] Yeah.

[00:11:57] There was a couple times when he fumbled his way through some lines, of course,

[00:12:01] and that was pretty consistent throughout the whole show.

[00:12:03] But the premise itself was strong enough.

[00:12:06] The stuff that they gave to the people that were coming up and talking to Chris Rock was also really funny.

[00:12:12] Their reactions and how they dealt with it.

[00:12:16] The stuff from the Santa Clauses was really funny as you got to hear them talk and also respond.

[00:12:21] So, yeah, there was enough good stuff here that it was a solid way to follow up the monologue.

[00:12:26] It's just unfortunate that this is like an indicator of things to come.

[00:12:30] So like Chris Rock being a little stilted, being a little, not delivering his lines perfectly,

[00:12:35] takes you out of the sketch a little bit, but not enough to really ruin anything.

[00:12:38] But that's really, this was the best we got and it still wasn't great.

[00:12:42] And it's interesting too because if you look at him, at least in this sketch, he's not always reading from the hue cards.

[00:12:48] It seems like he got some of the stuff down.

[00:12:50] But then I don't know if he just didn't, he forgot maybe where the rewrites were or certain hues and stuff like that.

[00:12:58] He's just not a good sketch performer.

[00:12:59] We know that.

[00:13:00] Yeah, he's not great.

[00:13:01] The only other nitpick I have is while everything was very funny, it went on too long because they didn't escalate.

[00:13:09] It was just the same joke over and over again.

[00:13:11] Exactly.

[00:13:11] But again, it's a very funny joke, but this went on a little too long.

[00:13:16] Well, I think that there is escalation there.

[00:13:17] It's just not as big because they do change.

[00:13:20] That was the problem.

[00:13:21] The escalation is different.

[00:13:23] Santa number three is a good, yeah.

[00:13:25] But they didn't.

[00:13:26] But you're not changing.

[00:13:27] It's still a joke.

[00:13:29] Yeah, it was always the same awkwardness of picking.

[00:13:32] But we do have that option, actually.

[00:13:34] Did you want to pick that?

[00:13:35] It's like that's the same joke.

[00:13:36] Yeah.

[00:13:36] Yeah, I agree.

[00:13:37] All right, moving on.

[00:13:38] Simpsons Christmas Gift.

[00:13:40] After opening a Secret Santa gift, a man portrayed by Chris Rock envisions himself as a character from The Simpsons.

[00:13:46] He is joined by Mikey Day, Heidi Gardner, Chloe Feynman, Andrew DeSmeek, Sarah Sherman, and Emile Walken.

[00:13:54] This could have been so good.

[00:13:55] This seemed to have the potential, and it never got there for me.

[00:14:00] What did you guys think of this?

[00:14:01] No, what I really like about this sketch, because I don't think it's bad, is the random absurdity that just pops up every now and then from the different characters.

[00:14:13] There's not one full-on straight man.

[00:14:16] There's not one full-on weird.

[00:14:17] They're all weird in their own separate ways.

[00:14:20] You get to see it all, and the problem is that I love the idea so much that the guy that gets The Simpsons photo doesn't really get The Simpsons as much, and then goes like, well, what if I did this?

[00:14:35] That's such a brilliant premise, and it's so wasted on Chris Rock's fumbling, stumbling, bumbling, moronic bullshit.

[00:14:42] It took me out of it.

[00:14:43] I wanted somebody to eat into that role and just really give it a good performance, and it really took me out of it, man.

[00:14:48] Yeah, and I wonder, and this is just me being cynical, but I wonder if Chris Rock comes into this week and thinks, you know, I've been on SNL for a long time, so I don't really have to put in the work.

[00:14:59] I mean, based on what Devin Walker said about Chris Rock on his stand-up set, that's probably true.

[00:15:03] And maybe there's a little holdover for that for me, because Brad and I went to Chicago.

[00:15:09] We invited Nate.

[00:15:10] He said no.

[00:15:11] And we go there, and we watch Andrew Dismukes and James Austin Johnson and Devin Walker do stand-up comedy in front of a live audience, and that's a fun night, Brad.

[00:15:20] I always love when stand-up's done in front of a live audience.

[00:15:23] Great, great, great stand-up in front of a live audience.

[00:15:25] Nate, you should check it out sometime.

[00:15:27] We were there, and Devin Walker, we didn't think based, and forgive me, Brad, if I'm literally speaking for you, but we did not think after that set and what he said about Chris Rock that he-

[00:15:39] Devin Walker was coming back.

[00:15:40] And SNL in general.

[00:15:41] Yeah, we thought there was a chance that he might not come back.

[00:15:42] He would not come back, because if anybody heard what he was saying, why would you invite him back?

[00:15:45] He didn't seem to give much ass.

[00:15:47] He hated his time on Saturday Night Live.

[00:15:50] He was miserable.

[00:15:51] Maybe it would be easier if he- he said maybe it would be easier if I was a white guy.

[00:15:54] Yeah.

[00:15:55] You know, he just- he basically called the show out for a lot of things.

[00:15:57] He said, don't meet your heroes.

[00:15:59] Chris Rock is- I mean, without saying it, Chris Rock's a piece of shit.

[00:16:02] Yeah.

[00:16:02] It was very jarring.

[00:16:03] So I'm still looking at that through the lens of like, okay, Chris Rock's hosting, and he's

[00:16:07] not that fucking good at this, and he's clearly kind of a dick, so why am I rooting for him?

[00:16:12] You know?

[00:16:12] Yeah.

[00:16:13] That's understandable.

[00:16:14] It's understandable.

[00:16:15] But yeah, there were so many fun little things that I liked in this sketch, like when Chris

[00:16:20] Rock calls Heidi Gardner wheels, and he's like, my name is Stacy.

[00:16:24] He's like, yeah, but your last name is wheels.

[00:16:26] Yeah, but he wasn't saying it like that.

[00:16:28] So, and the jump rope, and then the pan down is great.

[00:16:31] Yeah, exactly.

[00:16:32] It's perfect.

[00:16:33] It's really great.

[00:16:34] Chloe Fineman's bit too about tampons is like, now I can stop buying new dresses.

[00:16:38] Exactly.

[00:16:38] Every character had something fun and weird enough to say, but still grounded enough where

[00:16:42] it was like, oh, fun, now something to eat.

[00:16:44] They didn't go crazy with it.

[00:16:45] Yeah.

[00:16:45] It was just smart enough on those jokes.

[00:16:49] I just wish that they gave a real meaty role there to Chris Rock, and he fumbled it

[00:16:53] too much for me.

[00:16:54] Yeah, I agree with that.

[00:16:55] Because I love the premise of some guy that's like, but what if I, like, oh, you'd probably

[00:16:58] be the medical director at a hospital like you are now.

[00:17:01] Nah.

[00:17:03] Homer doesn't hit March.

[00:17:05] Yeah, I don't remember the episode where Homer hits March.

[00:17:08] These are great bits.

[00:17:10] All right, moving on.

[00:17:11] Sexual harassment.

[00:17:12] Charlie.

[00:17:13] Two employees.

[00:17:14] Sexual harassment.

[00:17:15] Charlie.

[00:17:16] That's what it makes me think of.

[00:17:18] Okay.

[00:17:18] You know the sexual harassment panda from?

[00:17:20] Yeah, I got it.

[00:17:21] Or from South Park?

[00:17:22] Yep.

[00:17:23] Remember when there was a panda?

[00:17:24] Cool.

[00:17:25] Okay.

[00:17:25] All right.

[00:17:26] Two employees, portrayed by Chris Rock and Kenan Thompson, expressed their apologies to

[00:17:32] their coworkers, Bowen Yang, Sarah Sherman, Heidi Gardner, Ego Wodham, and Mikey Day, after

[00:17:37] being fired alongside Andrew Smooks.

[00:17:40] This is Kenan Thompson's Charlie character's third appearance.

[00:17:45] The first appearance was in what episode?

[00:17:49] Hosted.

[00:17:50] That was Candace Bergen, 1984.

[00:17:53] No.

[00:17:54] No.

[00:17:54] Okay.

[00:17:54] It's actually a little bit on the nose.

[00:17:59] Chris Rock.

[00:17:59] Wasn't it Scarlett Johansson?

[00:18:01] Chris Rock 2020.

[00:18:02] That's the second episode.

[00:18:02] Okay.

[00:18:03] I don't remember the first one then.

[00:18:05] Jim Franco.

[00:18:07] Ooh.

[00:18:09] Yikes.

[00:18:09] Yeah, that makes sense.

[00:18:13] I love Kenan doing this character.

[00:18:16] The way he...

[00:18:18] A little dance.

[00:18:18] Yeah.

[00:18:19] I mean, just the way he says all the things so innocently and excitedly.

[00:18:23] It really does make you feel like, oh, yeah.

[00:18:25] I would also give a pass.

[00:18:26] There's some truth to this, too.

[00:18:28] Oh, yeah.

[00:18:29] Like, my girlfriend, Evelini, lives in Chicago.

[00:18:33] She's got a doorman at her apartment and everything.

[00:18:35] And they're all old guys, right?

[00:18:37] They're all old, kind, but also, sometimes they say stuff, and I'm like, you wouldn't

[00:18:43] get away with saying that a 34-year-old guy.

[00:18:46] Give me a little spin in that dress.

[00:18:47] Ooh.

[00:18:48] That's my little spicy tamale.

[00:18:50] Yeah.

[00:18:50] You're looking beautiful tonight, Miss Evelini, kind of thing.

[00:18:53] Give us a little smile.

[00:18:55] A 35-year-old creepy dude doesn't get away with saying that.

[00:18:58] Maybe after I'm the doorman, I can be the bed man.

[00:19:01] You know what?

[00:19:02] Oh, Charlie.

[00:19:04] Oh, you rascal.

[00:19:07] So, what'd you guys think of this?

[00:19:08] Did you like it or no?

[00:19:09] I liked Kenan in it.

[00:19:10] Yeah.

[00:19:11] I liked the character a lot.

[00:19:13] Nothing really new.

[00:19:14] No.

[00:19:14] Right?

[00:19:14] But I liked it enough, and it's a...

[00:19:17] It's nice to bring back a character that I hadn't seen in a long time.

[00:19:20] For him to do it, and everybody else just kind of plays along.

[00:19:22] And again, it would have been better if Chris Rock, as the straight man here, would have

[00:19:27] delivered his lines as he was supposed to instead of fumbling them.

[00:19:30] Again, this is just...

[00:19:31] I'm going to be sick of saying that over and over again, but it takes you out of it.

[00:19:35] Yeah.

[00:19:35] But I'm getting the impression that you didn't love Chris Rock in this episode.

[00:19:39] I hated him in this episode.

[00:19:40] I really wish that they would not have chosen him to host this episode.

[00:19:43] It was bad.

[00:19:44] No, the episode wasn't bad.

[00:19:45] He was bad.

[00:19:46] All right.

[00:19:47] Weekend update.

[00:19:50] I'm going to read the description, and then I'm going to ask my friend and co-host Ben

[00:19:55] to describe the breadometer.

[00:19:58] At this point, Brad, you can actually start putting the number in.

[00:20:02] Okay.

[00:20:02] Let me read the description.

[00:20:05] Weekend update host Colin Jost and Michael Che discuss this week's major headlines,

[00:20:09] including a drone crash in a New Jersey backyard and whale meat selling for $650 per pound

[00:20:16] at an auction in Japan.

[00:20:18] And there's some Weekend Update bits as well.

[00:20:21] I'll read those real quick as well.

[00:20:23] A bald man played by Andrew Smukes stops by the Weekend Update desk to discuss the UK judges'

[00:20:29] ruling.

[00:20:29] That's not a bald win.

[00:20:31] Nope.

[00:20:31] A bald man.

[00:20:32] A bald man.

[00:20:32] A bald man.

[00:20:34] And then Jane Wickline arrives to discuss Sabrina Carpenter's Netflix special and perform a song.

[00:20:41] Nate and I's favorite sketch performer.

[00:20:44] Yeah.

[00:20:45] Jane Wickline.

[00:20:45] A bald win is a hair loss.

[00:20:48] For our new listeners.

[00:20:49] All right.

[00:20:50] Hey, submit that to the New Yorker there, Brad.

[00:20:53] Put that one in your packet.

[00:20:55] It's going to be in Laffy Taffy.

[00:20:56] Oh, boy.

[00:20:57] For our new listeners to the show, welcome.

[00:21:00] Brad's going to, or sorry, Ben's going to describe the breadometer real quick for you.

[00:21:04] Yeah.

[00:21:04] Much like a Rotten Tomatoes style rating where 100% would be something like Shawshank Redemption

[00:21:10] and 0% would be like Larry the Cable Guy farts on your face.

[00:21:14] We give Brad the opportunity to give us a number.

[00:21:17] The higher the number, the better the interaction between Colin Jost and Michael Che are.

[00:21:22] There is influence by how good Weekend Update is overall.

[00:21:26] But generally, we're speaking about the interaction, camaraderie, and general just horseplay between the two Weekend Update anchors.

[00:21:34] It really doesn't have much to do with the two Update characters.

[00:21:37] This is mainly just about the Che Jost spectrum.

[00:21:43] That's pretty good.

[00:21:44] Way to go.

[00:21:44] Thank you.

[00:21:45] All right.

[00:21:46] And also, Brad is a liar, and everything is just wacky these days.

[00:21:49] He's the worst.

[00:21:50] It used to be a reliable parameter.

[00:21:52] Every listener of this show tells us Brad's the worst.

[00:21:53] They comment all the time.

[00:21:55] Wacky man.

[00:21:57] Here comes the wacky man.

[00:21:58] All right.

[00:21:59] You ready?

[00:21:59] We're going to say it at the same time.

[00:22:00] Are we?

[00:22:01] It's one, two, three, and we say the number?

[00:22:03] So one, two, three, say it?

[00:22:06] I'll fake it, right?

[00:22:07] One, two, three, 47.

[00:22:09] That's how we're going to say it.

[00:22:11] Ready?

[00:22:12] One, two, three, 88.

[00:22:14] I said 88.

[00:22:15] You said 84.

[00:22:16] Oh.

[00:22:16] Okay.

[00:22:17] Oh.

[00:22:18] Do we have – is anybody on the nose?

[00:22:19] No.

[00:22:20] Is anybody even close?

[00:22:21] Kind of.

[00:22:23] Fun.

[00:22:24] 91.

[00:22:25] Really?

[00:22:26] Yeah.

[00:22:27] So Michael J. looks over at Colin Jost and says, that's four groaners in a row.

[00:22:30] And Jost really does react there.

[00:22:33] Other than that, I didn't think –

[00:22:34] I just thought it was okay.

[00:22:35] That was okay.

[00:22:36] So then I said 80, and I go, ah, it's broken.

[00:22:40] 10% more.

[00:22:41] You added some because you thought it would go higher.

[00:22:43] I did.

[00:22:44] This was a similar situation to last weekend where they didn't have a lot of direct interaction,

[00:22:48] but there was like –

[00:22:49] Which is literally –

[00:22:50] The breadometer.

[00:22:51] Well, that'll boost it huge.

[00:22:53] But there was still a lot of general camaraderie between the two.

[00:22:57] You're making things up.

[00:22:58] It's a vibe.

[00:22:59] You just feel it.

[00:23:00] I'm sorry you're not in tune with Jost and Che like I am, but we're like buddies.

[00:23:04] You know, like we're – if we were to meet up at the pub down on the corner, you know,

[00:23:10] we'd walk in and it would just be like old friends hanging out.

[00:23:12] Hey, Nate, do you know what I have to say about the breadometer these days?

[00:23:14] It's broke?

[00:23:15] It's the 90s, Nate.

[00:23:17] You get it?

[00:23:18] Because that's in the show.

[00:23:19] That's all he ever says anymore?

[00:23:21] That's in the show.

[00:23:22] That's his only thing that he does now?

[00:23:23] Yeah, leave it to Ben to say the thing that's not funny on Weekend Update anymore.

[00:23:27] I actually thought that was pretty clever.

[00:23:29] It's not.

[00:23:30] What I just did, I thought it was pretty clever.

[00:23:31] No, not good.

[00:23:33] Let's talk a little bit about the Weekend Update bits.

[00:23:36] What did you think of Andrew Smukes playing the ball, man?

[00:23:38] Very fun.

[00:23:39] Very fun.

[00:23:41] So walk me through this.

[00:23:44] Why?

[00:23:45] I mean, it was funny.

[00:23:46] Well, there was a current event that inspired it.

[00:23:48] Was it really?

[00:23:48] Did you not watch the fucking sketch?

[00:23:50] The sketch is based on this courtroom.

[00:23:52] Oh, sorry.

[00:23:53] No, I mean, I didn't know that was a real thing.

[00:23:56] No, Saturday Night Live is a real show.

[00:23:58] Yeah, and in the UK, there was a thing where there was a group of people who voted on the thing

[00:24:04] as far as referring to a man as bald could be considered bullying.

[00:24:07] The judges, right?

[00:24:08] Because again, when we're talking about hate speech, when we're talking about bullying,

[00:24:12] you have to decide what is bullying.

[00:24:13] Yeah.

[00:24:14] And so if I'm making fun of Brad because, as you know, Brad is balding.

[00:24:19] I'm not balding.

[00:24:20] I just have thin hair by default.

[00:24:22] I'm not losing any hair.

[00:24:23] Well, I mean, is that?

[00:24:26] You have less hair than you had yesterday.

[00:24:27] No, that's true.

[00:24:27] No, is that what you're going to call it?

[00:24:30] I have always had thin hair.

[00:24:33] Oh, okay.

[00:24:34] Now, you've known me for like five years.

[00:24:36] Okay, but no, that's fine that you say that.

[00:24:37] That's fine.

[00:24:38] That's really rich coming from old thick head of hair over there.

[00:24:41] Yeah, actually.

[00:24:42] Yeah, must be nice when you're fucking high tower.

[00:24:44] I do like that Nate's punching down right now.

[00:24:46] Yeah.

[00:24:47] He's got this lustrous thick head of hair.

[00:24:50] Yeah, tell me more with your cool swoop coif on top of your head there.

[00:24:53] It looks like a bird is perched on your head.

[00:24:55] That's how much you have.

[00:24:57] A little bit of a Conan?

[00:24:58] A bit?

[00:24:59] A bit of a Conan?

[00:24:59] No, more like a hair Nazi.

[00:25:01] He's, whoa.

[00:25:02] Yeah.

[00:25:02] He's got dark.

[00:25:03] But so.

[00:25:05] No, no, no.

[00:25:05] So, but to me, they just did a whole bit.

[00:25:07] But it would be like me saying, Brad, hey, hey, baldy guy.

[00:25:11] And it's like, well, okay, no, when you say that, you're bullying Brad.

[00:25:14] But they just did a whole like bald performance thing on Bill Burr.

[00:25:17] Yeah, but that sucked.

[00:25:18] I know, but like, I don't know.

[00:25:20] This was funnier.

[00:25:20] I thought.

[00:25:21] No, it was fine.

[00:25:22] I thought this was really funny, especially the physical bit.

[00:25:24] Really funny or just kind of funny?

[00:25:25] Because I thought it was kind of funny.

[00:25:26] It was kind of funny.

[00:25:26] Kind of funny.

[00:25:28] The bit with the turtleneck and making him look like an Old Spice deodorant.

[00:25:32] That was good.

[00:25:32] That was really funny.

[00:25:33] That was good.

[00:25:33] No, I thought this mucs is what made it.

[00:25:35] No, that's.

[00:25:36] I mean, you can say that about anything, right?

[00:25:38] Yeah.

[00:25:38] He's so good these days.

[00:25:39] I just love him so much.

[00:25:40] Speaking of good, Ben, what did you think of Jane Wickling?

[00:25:44] I really laughed a lot.

[00:25:46] What did you like the best?

[00:25:48] About her performance this time?

[00:25:50] Yeah.

[00:25:50] As Sabrina Carpenter explaining her sexuality?

[00:25:57] Fuck you guys.

[00:25:57] You were the one.

[00:25:58] I was the one.

[00:25:59] I said.

[00:26:00] You were the one?

[00:26:01] I said.

[00:26:02] No, I was the one.

[00:26:03] No, no, no.

[00:26:03] And you were in the middle.

[00:26:05] No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[00:26:06] I said point blank.

[00:26:08] And listener, go back and listen.

[00:26:10] I said Jane Wickline will become most people's favorite by the end of the year.

[00:26:17] And you both, oh, terrible.

[00:26:21] That's exactly how I remember it.

[00:26:22] She was great.

[00:26:23] Your memory is fading as an old man because that's not how it happened.

[00:26:26] I don't remember this at all.

[00:26:27] No, it was funny.

[00:26:28] It was like I didn't.

[00:26:29] I like this one so much because I didn't know where it was going.

[00:26:31] I was so utterly confused by the first couple iterations.

[00:26:35] And then as I started to catch on as an old man, it was very funny.

[00:26:39] Yeah.

[00:26:40] It's I will say I do think that she she struggled with the timing a little bit because it didn't

[00:26:45] seem like she was working well with the melody.

[00:26:47] But I don't know if that's like not on purpose.

[00:26:50] That's the crazy part.

[00:26:51] I do.

[00:26:51] I do think that there is a part of it that works because of that.

[00:26:53] But then it felt like it was in sync after the first part.

[00:26:56] And I don't know.

[00:26:56] Again, I don't know if that's purposeful because if it's it's a master stroke of it is because

[00:27:00] it's like off putting you're like, what?

[00:27:02] I don't know what's going on.

[00:27:03] And then we don't know enough about her comedic style.

[00:27:06] So you don't know some of those idiosyncrasies are part of her comedy bit.

[00:27:11] I still find her slightly awkward.

[00:27:14] And that's the point.

[00:27:15] I know.

[00:27:15] No, I think that that is the point.

[00:27:17] But but not not in a funny way.

[00:27:19] Andrew Speaks is awkward, but I find that fun.

[00:27:22] Kyle Mooney's awkward.

[00:27:23] Kyle Mooney is awkward.

[00:27:24] And I think she's awkward, too.

[00:27:25] I just don't think.

[00:27:26] Is it because she's a woman?

[00:27:27] Yeah.

[00:27:27] Are you afraid of funny women?

[00:27:29] No.

[00:27:29] Sarah Sherman's awkward.

[00:27:30] I find her very funny.

[00:27:31] Sarah Sherman's quirky.

[00:27:32] She's not awkward.

[00:27:34] OK.

[00:27:34] All right.

[00:27:35] Yeah.

[00:27:35] I'll give you that.

[00:27:38] Name an awkward comedian that you love, Nate.

[00:27:41] Melissa Villasenor was awkward.

[00:27:43] She's quirky.

[00:27:45] She was bad.

[00:27:46] But I feel like you're just saying.

[00:27:47] She was.

[00:27:49] Wow.

[00:27:49] I mean, she's great at impressions than nothing else.

[00:27:51] Because she's like the lone Latina on the show.

[00:27:54] Real nice, Ben.

[00:27:55] You guys are really showing your white colors.

[00:27:57] Oh, boy.

[00:27:58] No, I think what I really like about this actually.

[00:28:01] Do you like how I flip that back to you?

[00:28:03] Because I feel like I feel like this premise has layers because not only is the song kind

[00:28:08] of about people questioning like Jane Wickline's sexuality and that, but also how outrageous

[00:28:15] it is that like people see Sabrina Carpenter and other stuff and they're like, oh, no, she's

[00:28:18] straight.

[00:28:18] She's just fucking around.

[00:28:19] Yeah.

[00:28:20] I did like the premise of it.

[00:28:21] I love.

[00:28:21] The premise was very good.

[00:28:22] That's a good get for her.

[00:28:23] Like that take is very funny.

[00:28:26] And I was fully on board when she went back and mentioned kissing Jenna Carpenter or

[00:28:32] Jenna Ortega a second time.

[00:28:33] And I was like, OK, yeah, this is really.

[00:28:35] And it only got stronger as it went on.

[00:28:37] So and I think Sabrina Carpenter to her credit, that is what Jane Wickline is very good at.

[00:28:42] Right.

[00:28:43] Yeah.

[00:28:43] It's it's it's it's the train leaving the station.

[00:28:46] It takes a while to get there.

[00:28:47] But once it's on, you're really you're really now we're cooking with gas, as they say.

[00:28:51] Yeah.

[00:28:51] Do you guys like this better than our first song?

[00:28:53] I think it's stronger comedically.

[00:28:56] I thought so.

[00:28:57] Her first song.

[00:28:58] I laughed at this.

[00:28:58] But I was also on board from the beginning.

[00:29:00] So you and I both were.

[00:29:01] But like Ben just listen.

[00:29:06] I think because he's from this rural part of Indiana, he doesn't really get a lot of

[00:29:11] people that are different than him.

[00:29:13] But wow.

[00:29:16] I mean, just I'm all aboard the Wickline Express.

[00:29:19] All right.

[00:29:20] Moving on.

[00:29:21] Gallbladder surgery written by Sarah Sherman.

[00:29:24] Sarah Sullivan.

[00:29:26] Jimmy Fallon.

[00:29:26] Dan Buller.

[00:29:27] The only sketch I have the writing for.

[00:29:29] A gallbladder surgery goes off the rails when a nurse played by Sarah Sherman makes a fatal

[00:29:35] mistake with Chris Rock, Ego Woden, Bolin Yang and Emile Walken as the doctors.

[00:29:42] It features a cameo by longtime former cast member Adam Sandler.

[00:29:47] Now, did you guys remember Adam Sandler or no?

[00:29:50] I don't know who he is.

[00:29:52] I was like John Rudnitsky, Luke Knoll, Adam Sandler.

[00:29:55] Like they just it's like Jerry Miner.

[00:29:57] This was a sketch that I was I was OK with.

[00:30:00] Like it was it was funny.

[00:30:01] Oh, Nate.

[00:30:02] But it became a lot funnier.

[00:30:04] Right.

[00:30:05] When the everything started going bad.

[00:30:08] Did it?

[00:30:09] But no, no, it did.

[00:30:11] It was there were some funny bits in there and they're having fun.

[00:30:13] This is just this is just Adam Sandler realizing what's going on and being like, yeah, fuck

[00:30:19] it.

[00:30:19] Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

[00:30:20] But I laughed at that.

[00:30:22] Like Adam Sandler's just like understanding that everything's going to hell.

[00:30:27] So I'm going to just going to I'm just going to this is Adam Sandler pulling his best Pete

[00:30:30] Davidson and not giving a shit.

[00:30:32] Yeah.

[00:30:32] But the the the blood broke.

[00:30:35] It didn't work.

[00:30:36] Yeah.

[00:30:36] To to a certain extent.

[00:30:37] So what am I going to do?

[00:30:38] I agree that it was amusing once he got it working again and was like directing Spray and

[00:30:44] you could see everything.

[00:30:44] But none of this was good.

[00:30:46] The premise itself, if it would have worked like on its own, the Sarah Sherman character

[00:30:51] feels like it's an all that bit of like, oh, she keeps messing things up.

[00:30:55] I didn't know why that was the thing.

[00:30:57] Focus on like they were like, what if Gilly was was, you know, a nerd or doctor like

[00:31:03] is so weird to have that.

[00:31:04] And then the blood bit comes along.

[00:31:06] It's like, oh, this is the crux of the sketch.

[00:31:08] It doesn't work.

[00:31:09] There is some comedy that comes from it messing up for sure.

[00:31:14] But I was so confused by what was happening that I didn't understand like what was supposed

[00:31:20] to be happening until it did.

[00:31:21] And by the time I got there, I was just like, gosh, this fucking sucks.

[00:31:25] Now, I didn't think that it sucked because I do feel like even though Sandler was like

[00:31:31] going a little too meta and like really just clearly showing the bit.

[00:31:38] But that's about all you can do there.

[00:31:40] And so at least I got to see the joy of him like having fun with his friends.

[00:31:44] Yeah.

[00:31:44] And that's that's kind of again, it's like being a fly on the wall, right?

[00:31:47] You always want to see like, oh, this is we're in on the joke together.

[00:31:50] There was there was enough of that where I was like, yeah, all right, fuck it.

[00:31:52] I did think, though, that that I don't know if the cast thought it was as funny because

[00:31:58] typically Bo and Yang is when a sketch breaks down, Bo and Yang is laughing.

[00:32:03] I think that he didn't seem to be laughing.

[00:32:05] I think that they just didn't.

[00:32:06] They weren't sure what was going to happen.

[00:32:08] Am I going to get in trouble by Lauren?

[00:32:10] Because like Adam Sandler can do this.

[00:32:12] We cannot.

[00:32:12] I think that there's a difference between Adam Sandler and Chris Rock being on the show

[00:32:15] and able to do whatever they want.

[00:32:16] But and the cast members being able to break and just literally improv.

[00:32:20] The line to Emil Walken.

[00:32:21] Was that not funny to you?

[00:32:23] I thought it was funny, but that's absolutely not script.

[00:32:25] There was no way that's in the script.

[00:32:26] No, that's what I'm saying is like he's like in you.

[00:32:28] Good for you.

[00:32:29] I bet your parents are happy, you know, that you're on the show.

[00:32:31] So that's the thing that I'm curious about.

[00:32:33] How about it?

[00:32:34] Like overhead.

[00:32:35] All right.

[00:32:36] Go ahead.

[00:32:36] Over the head.

[00:32:37] Ugh.

[00:32:38] So that's actually what I'm curious about.

[00:32:40] I want to know what the actual exchange between Sandler and those characters was supposed to be in that

[00:32:48] because part of me wonders if the bit was supposed to be him like suddenly like directing it at everybody

[00:32:55] and saying something to them because he's frustrated that he gets woken up.

[00:32:58] I don't think so.

[00:32:59] I don't think so.

[00:33:00] No way.

[00:33:00] Interesting.

[00:33:01] So you think do you think the bit where he he's like starts to saying that like it's going to get in Chris Rock's mouth

[00:33:07] is him improvising and making something happen or was that supposed to happen?

[00:33:11] I just don't think any of that was supposed to happen.

[00:33:13] I think everything went off the rails.

[00:33:14] Everything when the pump stopped working and then and then Sarah Sherman had to lean down.

[00:33:19] I know the repeated bit.

[00:33:20] Yeah.

[00:33:20] Right.

[00:33:21] Yeah.

[00:33:21] But then everything after that I think was just him being like come on.

[00:33:24] He just didn't even look at the cards anymore.

[00:33:26] He just did what he wanted.

[00:33:28] I'd be interested to find out about that.

[00:33:30] I hope that there's a story that comes out about what went wrong and what it was supposed to be if it wasn't that.

[00:33:34] And that's why honestly I think to give myself evidence here the fact that Boneyang who is like the guy that would normally break if they're trying to have any semblance of keeping it you know to the script.

[00:33:48] He's like I don't know what we're doing here because that wasn't anything that was supposed to happen.

[00:33:53] Yeah.

[00:33:54] Interesting.

[00:33:54] That's why I'm being there.

[00:33:56] Sarah Sherman posted on her her Instagram right.

[00:34:01] Liz Lee right.

[00:34:02] That's the girl's name.

[00:34:03] Liz Lee.

[00:34:05] You know and so you've got like these these comments on there right.

[00:34:09] Paul Walt Paul Hauser Paul Walter Walter Walter Walter wrote this sketch was so much fun.

[00:34:16] Right.

[00:34:17] Sure.

[00:34:22] Carol Sullivan said Liz the girl I know your heart and you do not mean any harm.

[00:34:27] She's talking about the character.

[00:34:28] Yeah.

[00:34:30] Other comments.

[00:34:31] This was the best.

[00:34:34] Wait I thought you were his rabbi.

[00:34:36] This one is so rad.

[00:34:37] Killer sketch.

[00:34:39] We got so excited with this one.

[00:34:41] This one was so funny.

[00:34:44] These are just the fans who are just like they'll lick Sarah Sherman's feet if she just walked in shit.

[00:34:47] I know but it's.

[00:34:48] I think it's more people that just love Adam Sandler.

[00:34:50] I think so too.

[00:34:51] And they genuinely love when sketches break down.

[00:34:54] Yeah.

[00:34:54] Right.

[00:34:54] I do too but like this one just.

[00:34:56] It doesn't sound like you do.

[00:34:58] Yeah.

[00:34:58] Why do you hate comedy?

[00:35:00] But you've hated Adam Sandler since like Billy Madison.

[00:35:03] Yeah.

[00:35:03] Like his official review on Slashroom for Adam Sandler's stand up comedy special 100% fresh was disagree 100% rotten.

[00:35:13] Not even remotely true.

[00:35:17] Just not doing the bit with us?

[00:35:18] Nope.

[00:35:18] Okay.

[00:35:19] Not falling into that trap.

[00:35:20] All right.

[00:35:21] Moving on.

[00:35:21] Office Christmas party extravaganza.

[00:35:24] Office employees portrayed by Chris Rock, Maggie Day, Michael Longfellow, Heidi Gardner, James Austin Johnson, Marcel Hernandez, Emile Walken.

[00:35:32] By the way, Emile Walken has got it.

[00:35:34] He's had an episode.

[00:35:35] He's had a lot.

[00:35:35] I mean he didn't do a lot but he's been in a lot of sketches.

[00:35:38] He was in quite a few things.

[00:35:40] Jane Wickline and Ashley Padilla gather for their annual holiday party at work.

[00:35:45] Ben, what did you think of this one?

[00:35:48] This is a poor man's version of Ass Dan and Jason Sudeikis.

[00:35:55] Well, I think even more so it's more like there's a Christmas version of this that they did about –

[00:36:02] This is a Christmas version.

[00:36:03] No, this was a Christmas thing.

[00:36:04] No, this was a Christmas thing.

[00:36:06] A Christmas church service version of this one.

[00:36:07] Yes.

[00:36:08] When Bobby Moynihan and Beck Bennett and all that were part of the cast.

[00:36:11] That was pretty funny.

[00:36:12] That's a hilarious one and this is a much lesser version of that.

[00:36:14] This is a poorly Xeroxed copy of that, right?

[00:36:18] I just watched the movie Office Christmas Party and this is kind of part of the comedy of that.

[00:36:24] Yeah.

[00:36:25] It's just like –

[00:36:26] There's amusing observations but it's –

[00:36:28] Thank you.

[00:36:29] It's been done so many.

[00:36:30] Not big enough, not fast enough.

[00:36:32] That's it though.

[00:36:33] Yeah.

[00:36:33] These are amusing observations.

[00:36:33] And there's nothing new.

[00:36:36] And we're all like, oh yeah, okay.

[00:36:39] Yeah.

[00:36:39] Come on.

[00:36:40] There's nothing outlandish enough here to make me laugh.

[00:36:43] There's not enough of a contrast because that's what makes the church one so funny is how loud it is.

[00:36:47] It's like, yeah, Sunday church.

[00:36:49] And then it does a cut to Bobby Moynihan doing the cheesy little pastor joke and Beck Bennett doing his polite little laugh.

[00:36:55] There's a great contrast.

[00:36:56] Here it doesn't feel like the contrast is as big.

[00:37:00] Yeah.

[00:37:00] Or just as cutting in the observation.

[00:37:03] Yeah.

[00:37:03] I make more money on my OnlyFans than I do.

[00:37:05] That to me was the best joke.

[00:37:07] A good joke.

[00:37:07] Yeah.

[00:37:07] And the way they made her look was great too.

[00:37:10] Yeah.

[00:37:11] And maybe too because that's new, right?

[00:37:13] That is a new observation for an office Christmas party.

[00:37:17] Whereas everything else could have been in the 2018 film office Christmas party.

[00:37:22] And it's like there's nothing new here, right?

[00:37:26] And so there was no new observations.

[00:37:29] Nothing that really – it was well done.

[00:37:31] There was nothing wrong with it.

[00:37:32] It just – nothing great.

[00:37:34] It didn't feel like there were any peaks either, you know?

[00:37:36] Yeah.

[00:37:37] For sure.

[00:37:37] Lots of valleys though.

[00:37:38] Ooh.

[00:37:42] That's so weird.

[00:37:44] All right.

[00:37:44] Moving on.

[00:37:45] Blind Date.

[00:37:46] A blind date between a woman played by Ego Wodum and a man played by Chris Rock takes

[00:37:51] an unexpected turn.

[00:37:53] Also features Marcelo Hernandez, Emil Walkman, and Jane Wickline.

[00:37:56] Was this the last one?

[00:37:56] This was the last one.

[00:37:58] Well, there was the show, guys.

[00:37:59] What was your favorite –

[00:38:00] This was not good at all.

[00:38:01] What was your favorite sketch?

[00:38:01] So here's the thing that was so frustrating to me about this one.

[00:38:04] No, no.

[00:38:05] I didn't like it.

[00:38:05] Okay.

[00:38:06] I was going to say if he's like, guys, you're wrong.

[00:38:08] No, I didn't like it because the logic of this sketch is so bad.

[00:38:15] There's no reason for Ego Wodum's character to stick around for the Chris Rock date and

[00:38:22] believe what's happening because she's already skeptical, but she deals with all the weird

[00:38:28] things like it's totally normal.

[00:38:29] But there's no indication that that character has any reason to accept those things and

[00:38:33] be fine with them.

[00:38:34] There needs to be some kind of established logic in the sketch as to why she's okay with

[00:38:39] it and not observing the weird things and not willing to walk away.

[00:38:42] Or it needs to be so absurd where it's like a homeless man or something where the logic

[00:38:48] is so ridiculous.

[00:38:50] Like Tracy Morgan's homeless guy character.

[00:38:53] Yes.

[00:38:54] Woodrow.

[00:38:55] Something absurd like that where it's like, okay, you're asking me to suspend logic.

[00:39:00] Yeah.

[00:39:00] Right?

[00:39:00] Then I can go there.

[00:39:02] That's it.

[00:39:03] Ego Wodum's character, all there needed to be was, I don't believe you, but I'm going

[00:39:09] to sit here because I'm going to record this for my friends.

[00:39:11] Yeah.

[00:39:11] Anything like that.

[00:39:13] But instead it was like she's still looking for love even though he takes a stake off somebody

[00:39:16] else's plate.

[00:39:16] Yeah.

[00:39:17] What is going on there?

[00:39:17] Like, again, there's no grounded in reality moment here at all.

[00:39:21] And that was just frustrating because you take that and you couple it with Chris Rock's

[00:39:25] inability to deliver any semblance of a line.

[00:39:28] And then Marcelo Hernandez comes in as, again, another weird character to sit down and drink

[00:39:32] another guy's drink or something.

[00:39:33] I don't know.

[00:39:33] That was just weird.

[00:39:35] Yeah.

[00:39:36] So that's the episode.

[00:39:38] But I do have a question for you because, again, I think the three of us would agree.

[00:39:41] We have not talked about this, but I think.

[00:39:43] We skipped a sketch.

[00:39:46] Did I skip a sketch?

[00:39:47] Yeah.

[00:39:47] We didn't do the pre-tape.

[00:39:50] We did one pre-tape.

[00:39:52] Hold on.

[00:39:52] We didn't do the racist car.

[00:39:55] Oh.

[00:39:55] Oh, I did.

[00:39:56] It's on here.

[00:39:57] And that is the best sketch of the day.

[00:39:59] It is.

[00:40:00] It is.

[00:40:01] That's why I just remembered.

[00:40:01] I was thinking, what's the best sketch?

[00:40:02] I was like, oh, it's the racist car.

[00:40:04] I'm going to do a timestamp and you can maybe cut it in.

[00:40:06] Yeah.

[00:40:06] I'll put it back in.

[00:40:07] Where does it need to be in between so that we can kind of have a vibe of what we're just talking

[00:40:10] about?

[00:40:11] Hold on real quick.

[00:40:12] Wait.

[00:40:13] 40.

[00:40:13] Oh, eight.

[00:40:18] Where did I skip that?

[00:40:19] Oh, right after Simpsons.

[00:40:21] Okay.

[00:40:23] All right.

[00:40:24] Ready?

[00:40:26] All right.

[00:40:26] Moving on.

[00:40:27] Grandpa's Magic Car.

[00:40:28] A group of people played by Chris Rock, Andrew Smukes, Ego Wodum, Chloe Finan, Marcelo Hernandez,

[00:40:34] and Devin Walker finds an old car while helping their friend, played by Mikey Day, clean out

[00:40:39] his grandfather's barn.

[00:40:40] Darn.

[00:40:41] This is a pre-tape and very funny.

[00:40:44] Yes.

[00:40:45] If there's a high point in this episode, this is absolutely it.

[00:40:48] It works because Chris Rock doesn't have to read off of cue cards.

[00:40:51] He gets to just do normal acting.

[00:40:53] And the premise itself is hilarious.

[00:40:56] Very funny.

[00:40:57] So good.

[00:40:57] So funny.

[00:40:58] Just the timing of the car door shutting and just the cutting.

[00:41:02] Also, just the smile of the car made me laugh.

[00:41:05] I mean, it's just so silly and funny.

[00:41:08] Things like this work so well when you see them coming and it's still hilarious.

[00:41:11] Yeah.

[00:41:12] Like, we could have all seen that, like, the two black actors were going to go.

[00:41:17] Or sorry.

[00:41:17] No.

[00:41:18] Originally, there's two doors in the back.

[00:41:20] Right?

[00:41:21] And so the two doors lock.

[00:41:22] Yeah.

[00:41:22] Right?

[00:41:23] I saw that coming.

[00:41:24] And I'm like, all right.

[00:41:25] Let's see what happens.

[00:41:25] And it got funnier from there.

[00:41:27] It was just really well done.

[00:41:28] Yep.

[00:41:29] And again, that's a testament to the writing of the sketch.

[00:41:32] Because when you can be a little bit predictive of where the sketch is going, but they're still

[00:41:37] making you laugh.

[00:41:38] But it's still unpredictable enough because I'm laughing so hard at what's coming out of

[00:41:41] their mouths.

[00:41:41] It also looked really good.

[00:41:43] The effects were really good.

[00:41:44] Great job.

[00:41:44] Like I said, the dumb smiling car.

[00:41:46] Even that.

[00:41:46] That's a digital effect.

[00:41:47] That's good.

[00:41:48] It works.

[00:41:50] Really enjoyed this sketch.

[00:41:52] And I mean, we haven't gotten through the whole episode.

[00:41:55] But I think this will probably be my sketch of the day.

[00:41:58] Yeah.

[00:41:58] I mean, the escalation there, too, of just like smacking Chloe Fineman in the butt, spraying

[00:42:03] her with the winchwubber fluid to get her shirt wet.

[00:42:06] And the ending is hilarious, too, because it leans you into the thing of partying in the

[00:42:11] USA.

[00:42:11] And it's like, all right, everyone in the car.

[00:42:12] It's like, well, there's only one thing we can do.

[00:42:14] And they just fucking set the barn on fire.

[00:42:16] Yeah.

[00:42:17] So again, that's amazing escalation because I didn't see that coming, actually.

[00:42:21] I was like, oh, there's only one thing we can do.

[00:42:24] Burn the car alive.

[00:42:25] It's amazing.

[00:42:35] I wanted to put the end of that timestamp in there, too.

[00:42:38] All right.

[00:42:40] I do have a question for you guys, though, because we talked about Chris Rock not being

[00:42:44] the best host.

[00:42:45] I think we all three agree on this.

[00:42:46] We didn't talk about it, but I think we all agree.

[00:42:51] Is there a sketch that you think was better that we would rate lowered because of Chris

[00:42:58] Rock, but without him maybe would have been a better sketch?

[00:43:00] The Simpsons sketch, yeah.

[00:43:01] By far.

[00:43:02] 100%.

[00:43:02] Yeah.

[00:43:02] I would have loved to see somebody who could just take that.

[00:43:07] And honestly, I wouldn't change a word about the audaciousness of what he was talking about.

[00:43:16] No, not at all.

[00:43:16] That was very well written.

[00:43:18] But just that delivery could have been so much better.

[00:43:21] Yeah.

[00:43:21] Because everybody else was having so much fun and delivering their line so well.

[00:43:25] Yeah.

[00:43:25] It was, of course, just jarring and awkward.

[00:43:28] You think you put a Nate Bargazzi in that and it's better?

[00:43:30] No.

[00:43:31] No.

[00:43:31] Honestly, Nate Bargazzi doesn't do a good job.

[00:43:33] What about a Paul Meskel?

[00:43:35] He would have been fine, but I think that if you put somebody like an Oscar Isaacs in

[00:43:38] that position-

[00:43:39] I'm just looking at those in this season.

[00:43:41] Michael Keaton.

[00:43:42] Michael Keaton went great, though, in this.

[00:43:44] It wasn't Michael Keaton's fault.

[00:43:46] No, but again, he didn't do a bad job of reading off the cue cards.

[00:43:49] Maybe Mulaney?

[00:43:51] I mean, Mulaney would have crushed it.

[00:43:52] Yeah.

[00:43:53] Mulaney would have done really well.

[00:43:54] But he's a sketch comedian, so that's not really fair.

[00:43:56] Yeah.

[00:43:57] Honestly, Charlie XTX probably would have done a fantastic job at that.

[00:44:01] She was tremendous.

[00:44:02] Yeah.

[00:44:02] Yeah.

[00:44:03] She was good.

[00:44:03] I was just trying to think of who would have maybe in this season would have been better.

[00:44:07] But I think you're right.

[00:44:07] I think that sketch was a very good sketch that got brought down by Chris Rock because

[00:44:14] the premise, I didn't see the premise coming.

[00:44:17] How many sketches was Devin Walker in?

[00:44:20] He was in the Christmas Santa sketch.

[00:44:25] He was in the Grandpa's Racist Car sketch.

[00:44:28] Yep.

[00:44:30] And...

[00:44:30] So, yeah.

[00:44:31] He was in the Mall Santas and the Grandpa's Men's Car.

[00:44:37] So there you go.

[00:44:38] All right.

[00:44:38] I was just curious.

[00:44:39] Makes sense.

[00:44:40] Any other that you want to know?

[00:44:41] No, that was the one because of Chris Rock.

[00:44:43] No, because of what he said about Chris Rock.

[00:44:44] Yeah.

[00:44:46] So, in your opinion, I think we all know what the answer is.

[00:44:48] What was the best sketch of the night?

[00:44:50] The Grandpa's Men's Car.

[00:44:51] Grandpa's Racist Car.

[00:44:52] So good.

[00:44:53] I'm never going to call him a man's car.

[00:44:54] Grandpa's Racist Car.

[00:44:57] Only second to the Simpsons sketch.

[00:44:58] And we all know...

[00:44:59] If the Simpsons sketch.

[00:45:00] Exactly.

[00:45:00] Yeah.

[00:45:00] And honestly, if the Simpsons sketch would have had somebody better, it probably would

[00:45:05] have been the better sketch, honestly.

[00:45:06] Yeah.

[00:45:07] Because that level of absurdistness is what I love.

[00:45:11] But the predictability of the pre-tape, there's not a shelf life, but there's a peak that you

[00:45:19] can hit with that.

[00:45:20] But I've never seen anybody do the Simpsons, that kind of sketch before.

[00:45:24] Yeah.

[00:45:24] I love the originality there.

[00:45:26] I agree with that.

[00:45:27] But who's the MVP?

[00:45:29] Sarah Sherman.

[00:45:31] Sarah Sherman.

[00:45:31] Yeah.

[00:45:31] I would probably give it to Sarah Sherman.

[00:45:34] So again, though...

[00:45:35] Nancy Grace.

[00:45:36] Nancy Grace.

[00:45:37] And then I just...

[00:45:38] The fact that watching the blood on her face in the Sandler stuff and just that interaction

[00:45:44] they had was utterly fantastic.

[00:45:46] I really liked that aspect alone of like she's leaning down and he's...

[00:45:50] That was the playfulness that you love when a sketch goes bad.

[00:45:53] So Sarah Sherman...

[00:45:54] In this episode, Sarah Sherman obviously kicks off the episode as Nancy Grace.

[00:45:59] She's a parent in Mall Santa's.

[00:46:03] Right.

[00:46:04] She's a co-worker in Simpsons Christmas Gift.

[00:46:07] She's...

[00:46:08] The reaction person to...

[00:46:09] Michelle in Sexual Harassment Charlie.

[00:46:12] She is...

[00:46:13] Oh, Charlie.

[00:46:15] Liz Lee.

[00:46:15] Liz Lee in the gallbladder surgery.

[00:46:18] And she is work wife in Your Office Christmas Party.

[00:46:24] So she had...

[00:46:25] If nothing else, she had a very busy night.

[00:46:28] Other than...

[00:46:29] She had the most sketches but tied one other cast member.

[00:46:33] Who was it?

[00:46:34] Emile Walken.

[00:46:35] Emile Walken.

[00:46:36] Good for him.

[00:46:37] Okay.

[00:46:38] I give her a lot of credit for opening the show in that political cold open and holding

[00:46:46] her own and making me excited about the show.

[00:46:49] I give her a lot of credit for that.

[00:46:50] I honestly...

[00:46:50] I have a hard time.

[00:46:51] I don't think anybody was great in this because I thought it was a pretty poor episode.

[00:46:55] But not necessarily...

[00:46:57] I don't think anybody was...

[00:46:58] Any of the cast members were bad.

[00:46:59] I was going to say you almost said anybody, but that would have included Chris Rock.

[00:47:02] And he was.

[00:47:03] He was bad.

[00:47:04] Yeah, any of the cast members were bad.

[00:47:05] He was bad.

[00:47:06] He should feel bad.

[00:47:07] There also wasn't a ton of great sketches either.

[00:47:09] There was nothing that...

[00:47:11] Other than the pre-tape.

[00:47:12] But nobody in there really stood out.

[00:47:15] I mean, as far as sketches overall, but I think that each of the sketches, for the most

[00:47:20] part, with the exception of one in particular...

[00:47:23] Well, technically two, but each of the sketches, I think, did have a couple really good jokes

[00:47:29] in them, even if the sketch overall didn't work because Chris Rock fumbled a lot of stuff.

[00:47:33] Yeah.

[00:47:34] Yeah.

[00:47:34] And they were fine.

[00:47:35] They just weren't great.

[00:47:36] Beyond the Simpsons stuff, even something like...

[00:47:42] Sorry.

[00:47:43] Scroll, Nate, so I can see real quick.

[00:47:45] What are you looking for?

[00:47:47] After the Simpsons.

[00:47:48] Oh, after the Simpsons was Grandpa's Magic Car, the sexual harassment trailer.

[00:47:52] Even something like sexual harassment and the Santa Claus.

[00:47:56] Yeah.

[00:47:56] Those two are...

[00:47:57] They're not bad.

[00:47:58] No.

[00:47:58] Whatsoever.

[00:48:00] Chris Rock didn't ruin, ruin them, but he was not the best part.

[00:48:04] Yeah.

[00:48:04] No.

[00:48:05] So that's not to say those sketches are bad, is what I'm saying.

[00:48:07] Yeah.

[00:48:07] I think there was only one genuinely bad sketch in this one.

[00:48:12] Blind date?

[00:48:12] Yeah.

[00:48:12] And one that just went off the rails and never recovered.

[00:48:15] Right.

[00:48:16] Yeah.

[00:48:16] All the other ones would have been better.

[00:48:19] Who was your MVP, Brent?

[00:48:20] I think after hearing you guys talk about it, I think I agree with Sarah Sherman.

[00:48:23] Originally, I was thinking I would give it to Jane Wickline because I liked her musical

[00:48:27] Weekend Update bit so much.

[00:48:29] But her bits that were funny were just small bits.

[00:48:32] Her mere appearance as Santa number three is funny, just the way they made her look.

[00:48:37] And the OnlyFans line from the Office Christmas party.

[00:48:40] But I think you're right.

[00:48:41] Sarah Sherman did a lot in this episode and she did it really well.

[00:48:44] Yeah.

[00:48:44] She was Santa number three, right?

[00:48:46] Yeah.

[00:48:47] Wickline was.

[00:48:47] Yeah.

[00:48:48] But she was good.

[00:48:50] We're going to give her an honorable mention because as I've said all along, heir apparent

[00:48:53] to Sarah Sherman.

[00:48:56] You're Wicklinian in your affectionate?

[00:49:00] Belief system.

[00:49:00] Yeah.

[00:49:01] Yeah.

[00:49:01] Exactly.

[00:49:01] I'm a Wicklinian.

[00:49:02] Hey, guys.

[00:49:03] We're not done for the year, though.

[00:49:05] No.

[00:49:05] We got one more big episode coming.

[00:49:07] And I'm really-

[00:49:07] David fucking Hasselhoff.

[00:49:09] Oh, my gosh.

[00:49:10] I'm really excited about next week because A, we got one more Christmas episode.

[00:49:14] And you guys know I love Christmas.

[00:49:15] You love Christmas.

[00:49:16] Mm-hmm.

[00:49:16] Mm-hmm.

[00:49:17] And he's been a Christmas host before.

[00:49:19] Yeah.

[00:49:20] So who do we got next week, buddy?

[00:49:22] Martin Short.

[00:49:23] Marty.

[00:49:24] Marty Short.

[00:49:25] Musical guest Bjork.

[00:49:28] No?

[00:49:29] Who is it?

[00:49:30] Who is the musical guest?

[00:49:30] I don't remember.

[00:49:33] Well, it's Bjork.

[00:49:34] We're really good.

[00:49:35] Featuring Sinead O'Connor.

[00:49:36] I know who it's not.

[00:49:37] It's not Gracie Abrams.

[00:49:38] Why not?

[00:49:39] Why can't she come back?

[00:49:40] She just was.

[00:49:40] Well, you know what?

[00:49:41] I'd love to see that back-to-back episode.

[00:49:42] Wouldn't that be funny?

[00:49:44] Why don't they get like a Michael Buble again?

[00:49:47] Wouldn't that be fun?

[00:49:48] No.

[00:49:48] I love Michael Buble.

[00:49:48] No, somebody like a-

[00:49:49] What are you against Buble?

[00:49:51] Nothing.

[00:49:51] I just don't want to see one of those people on the show.

[00:49:53] Oh, I know who it is.

[00:49:54] It's Hozier.

[00:49:55] Oh, I like Hozier.

[00:49:57] Somebody that I used to know.

[00:49:58] And he's going to sing-

[00:49:59] That's Gautier.

[00:50:00] Yeah, that is Gautier.

[00:50:01] He's going to sing a song off of his new Christmas album.

[00:50:04] Does he have a new Christmas album?

[00:50:06] No.

[00:50:08] I would have been interested.

[00:50:10] Take me to church.

[00:50:11] It's midnight mass and I'll-

[00:50:13] Oh, hey.

[00:50:14] It's not bad.

[00:50:15] Can't carry a tune, but you know.

[00:50:17] Hey.

[00:50:17] Hey.

[00:50:18] Hey.

[00:50:19] That's hurtful.

[00:50:20] Brad.

[00:50:20] You couldn't carry a tune in a rubber.

[00:50:22] Real quick to-

[00:50:23] What?

[00:50:24] A condom?

[00:50:25] A tune in a rubber?

[00:50:27] Right.

[00:50:27] I don't understand what that means.

[00:50:28] You're just bad at it.

[00:50:29] Brad, real quick for our listeners.

[00:50:31] Condom is made to hold things and you can't carry a tune in it.

[00:50:34] Pocock.

[00:50:35] Pocock has released some-

[00:50:36] Pocock?

[00:50:37] Speaking of condoms.

[00:50:38] Pocock.

[00:50:39] Pocock has released some like a press release for some stuff coming up for Sunday Night Live.

[00:50:44] How would you know you didn't read it?

[00:50:45] You sent-

[00:50:46] No, that's what I was going to say.

[00:50:47] You put it in our chat thread.

[00:50:49] I didn't read them.

[00:50:50] I don't read anything you sent.

[00:50:51] Because you sent a lot of stuff.

[00:50:53] You sent it all the time.

[00:50:53] To be fair-

[00:50:54] It's too much.

[00:50:54] It's constantly.

[00:50:56] It's like, get a job.

[00:50:57] All right?

[00:50:58] This is coming from the two guys who once they sit their ass on the fucking toilet send

[00:51:02] about 50 fucking Instagram links and TikTok reels.

[00:51:06] But I don't know.

[00:51:06] They're in TikTok.

[00:51:08] We're too old for TikTok.

[00:51:08] Every time I see a stream of three to four videos come from Ben or Nan, I'm like, oh, someone's

[00:51:12] taking a shit.

[00:51:13] But they're so funny, though.

[00:51:15] They are.

[00:51:15] A lot of times I'm just sitting in my car waiting to go into the house.

[00:51:18] Yeah.

[00:51:18] No, I'm like, you know what?

[00:51:19] Brad needs is a funny video.

[00:51:21] A good laugh.

[00:51:22] A funny chuckle.

[00:51:23] And you know what?

[00:51:24] What's better than one, Nate?

[00:51:25] Two.

[00:51:26] Or three.

[00:51:26] And what's better than two?

[00:51:27] Three.

[00:51:27] You know what I love?

[00:51:28] Is when Ben sends me stuff?

[00:51:30] Because I laugh.

[00:51:30] I laugh.

[00:51:31] I like to laugh, unlike some people.

[00:51:33] Why do you hate joy?

[00:51:34] I don't watch any of your fucking videos.

[00:51:36] Wow.

[00:51:37] No, I'm just kidding.

[00:51:37] Neither of you are pretty funny.

[00:51:40] January 16th on Peacock, there will be a four-part SNL docuseries called SNL 50 Beyond

[00:51:47] Saturday Night.

[00:51:49] And Morgan Neville is the executive producer.

[00:51:52] He directed some pretty great documentaries such as Won't You Be My Neighbor and 20 Feet from

[00:51:57] Stardom, a couple great documentaries if you haven't seen them.

[00:52:00] And so the first episode is called Five Minutes.

[00:52:03] It's a showcase of the SNL audition process.

[00:52:06] Episode two is called Written By, A Week Inside the SNL Writer's Room.

[00:52:10] Pretty self-explanatory.

[00:52:11] Geeks like us, we're going to love this.

[00:52:12] Oh, yeah.

[00:52:12] We're going to be salivating at this stuff.

[00:52:14] Episode three, More Cowboy, a deep dive into the iconic More Cowboy sketch, exploring

[00:52:20] how that simple idea became this huge sketch.

[00:52:22] Oh, wow.

[00:52:23] That's interesting.

[00:52:24] Just to do a documentary.

[00:52:26] Just one sketch.

[00:52:27] Yeah.

[00:52:27] I think it's the idea of showing the evolution of the inception of an idea to executing the

[00:52:31] sketch and it becoming this pop culture phenomenon.

[00:52:34] And how Will Ferrell just keeps asking for a smaller and smaller shirt.

[00:52:37] Yeah.

[00:52:38] And then episode four is season 11, The Weird Year, an exploration into SNL's 11th season

[00:52:43] examining the pivotal year that Lorne Michaels was not there.

[00:52:47] Ooh.

[00:52:48] The Ebersole year.

[00:52:49] No, that's not season 11.

[00:52:51] Oh, sorry.

[00:52:51] I was going to say, that can't be.

[00:52:52] Let me redo that part.

[00:52:53] No.

[00:52:54] No.

[00:52:54] No.

[00:52:55] No.

[00:52:55] You got to.

[00:52:56] I'm editing, so fuck off.

[00:52:57] Yeah.

[00:52:58] Episode four is season 11, The Weird Year, and this will explore the year that reset the

[00:53:03] show's direction and then basically cemented the fact that Lorne Michaels is the one that

[00:53:08] keeps the show running.

[00:53:10] And that's why it works.

[00:53:11] It's because he knows what he's doing.

[00:53:12] He knows how to wrangle these comedians and stuff like that.

[00:53:14] So what was that?

[00:53:15] 1987?

[00:53:16] 87?

[00:53:16] 85 to 86.

[00:53:18] Who was the cast members?

[00:53:20] It was post Eddie Murphy.

[00:53:22] Yeah, of course.

[00:53:23] But who was that cast?

[00:53:25] You want me to read you?

[00:53:26] Yeah.

[00:53:27] All right.

[00:53:27] Joan Cusack.

[00:53:29] Joan Cusack.

[00:53:29] Robert Downey Jr.

[00:53:31] Nora Dunn.

[00:53:32] Anthony Michael Hall.

[00:53:35] John Lovitz.

[00:53:36] How is that John Lovitz?

[00:53:38] I love John Lovitz.

[00:53:38] That's pretty good.

[00:53:39] Okay.

[00:53:39] Dennis Miller.

[00:53:40] Randy Quaid.

[00:53:42] Terry Sweeney.

[00:53:44] Denitra Vance.

[00:53:46] A. Whitney Brown.

[00:53:48] Al Franken.

[00:53:49] Don Novello.

[00:53:51] Dan Vitale.

[00:53:53] And Damon Wayans.

[00:53:54] Big cast.

[00:53:55] Wow.

[00:53:55] Yeah.

[00:53:56] I'm interested to see that episode then.

[00:53:58] For sure.

[00:53:59] Because this cements him with that cast.

[00:54:03] Well, yeah.

[00:54:03] Well, I think it's the idea.

[00:54:04] That's why it's called The Weird Year, though.

[00:54:05] Sure.

[00:54:06] Coming back, trying to figure that out.

[00:54:08] And we don't want to answer this right now, but how many of those actors or performers were

[00:54:14] on the previous year?

[00:54:16] It wasn't a complete reboot, right?

[00:54:17] No, I think it was.

[00:54:18] So, like, Anthony Michael Hall wasn't on the year before, or Robert Eddie Jr. wasn't on

[00:54:22] the year before?

[00:54:22] I don't think so.

[00:54:23] Okay.

[00:54:23] I mean, I can tell you who the cast was.

[00:54:25] Season 10 was Jim Belushi, Billy Crystal, Mary Gross, Christopher Guest, Rich Hall, Gary

[00:54:33] Kroger, Julia Louise Dreyfuss, Harry Shearer, Martin Short, and Pamela Stevenson.

[00:54:37] So, yeah.

[00:54:38] Wipe the slate clean.

[00:54:38] Wow.

[00:54:39] Yeah.

[00:54:39] And especially when, now, again, you look at that cast, and then what Lorne Michaels

[00:54:44] had, and you go, holy shit, the previous one is almost a who's who.

[00:54:49] Yeah.

[00:54:49] You know, that's crazy.

[00:54:50] Billy Crystal and Martin Short?

[00:54:52] No.

[00:54:52] And then season 12.

[00:54:55] Right?

[00:54:55] So, right after that first tumultuous year.

[00:54:57] Dana Carvey, Nora Dunn, Phil Hartman, Jan Hooks, Victoria Jackson, John Lovitz, Dennis

[00:55:02] Miller, A. Whitney Brown, and Kevin Nealing.

[00:55:04] Yeah.

[00:55:05] So, three holdovers.

[00:55:06] Yeah.

[00:55:06] Yep.

[00:55:07] And then the, I feel like Dana Carvey starts a whole new-

[00:55:10] That's the rocket ship.

[00:55:12] Yeah, yeah.

[00:55:12] Right?

[00:55:12] Not the Charles rocket ship, though.

[00:55:15] Yeah.

[00:55:15] Dana Carvey, Phil Hartman.

[00:55:17] I mean, geez louise, two of the-

[00:55:18] John Lovitz.

[00:55:20] I do love John Lovitz.

[00:55:21] No, listen.

[00:55:21] I don't know.

[00:55:22] I mean, RIP, but-

[00:55:24] And then also, just to tease this far out, the Saturday Night Live 50th Anniversary Primetime

[00:55:31] Celebration Special will be happening on February 16th, which is a Sunday, and we are going

[00:55:37] to watch it as it airs live, and we will be doing a show recording immediately after

[00:55:42] it airs.

[00:55:43] So, make sure you check in for that after the Primetime Special.

[00:55:48] I don't know.

[00:55:48] He's locked in our commitments.

[00:55:49] I didn't know we agreed on that, but that's fine.

[00:55:51] We said we'll talk about it, but-

[00:55:52] And then, finally, Ben and I really love a new film that came out that you can- I think

[00:55:59] it's on VOD now.

[00:56:01] And we'd love in the comments to let us know, because this is kind of an ongoing debate that

[00:56:06] we're having here amongst the three of us.

[00:56:08] Ben and I love this film called Saturday Night Live, or Saturday Night.

[00:56:12] He doesn't even know the name of the movie.

[00:56:12] Saturday Night Live.

[00:56:13] Brad hates it.

[00:56:14] It's like our love for Jane Wickline and Saturday Night Night, the movie.

[00:56:19] Yeah, you can't even say the title either.

[00:56:20] You guys are two dumb fucks.

[00:56:22] No, we're just bumbling over it, because we just can't believe you.

[00:56:24] No, you're bumbling because you really liked it.

[00:56:25] You know what you guys are?

[00:56:26] You're the fucking Bumble Brothers.

[00:56:27] You just hate it so much.

[00:56:28] I just- my love and your hate, they just can't mix.

[00:56:31] I hate it so much that my quote is on the cover of the fucking physical media release of Saturday

[00:56:36] Night.

[00:56:37] That's a dying- that's a dying interview.

[00:56:39] One of the best movies of the year.

[00:56:41] Print it.

[00:56:41] Hey, speaking of one of the best movies of the year, when is- now, for our listeners,

[00:56:46] Brad is an editor at Slash Film.

[00:56:49] Ethan Anderton is his-

[00:56:51] Ethan underscore.

[00:56:52] Nom de plume.

[00:56:53] Pretend name.

[00:56:55] But-

[00:56:55] Pretend name is the best way to say it.

[00:56:57] It's his pretend name.

[00:56:59] But when is your top 10 list coming out?

[00:57:01] Never.

[00:57:02] Well, it's been another episode of Saturday Night Live.

[00:57:05] Go flip your top 10 list tonight.

[00:57:07] So, things have shifted at Slash Film as far as how we normally do the tips.

[00:57:10] I don't work there anymore.

[00:57:13] Things shifted at Slash Film.

[00:57:16] Things have shifted at Slash Film.

[00:57:17] I'm no longer-

[00:57:18] And I am no longer part of the team.

[00:57:22] So, I'll be releasing my top 10 list on Twitter.

[00:57:25] If you want to follow me on X.

[00:57:27] Blue Sky is going to have my new shit.

[00:57:29] I don't know if it was last year or was the first year or the year before.

[00:57:32] But the individual lists from each of the core Slash Film people, like the OGs people

[00:57:39] who carried over from the previous version of the site to when we were purchased by Static

[00:57:42] Media, the individual lists don't get huge traffic.

[00:57:45] It's just the main Slash Film list that's cumulative gets big traffic.

[00:57:48] Is it because you include too many foreign films?

[00:57:51] No, it's mostly just because-

[00:57:52] Because that's probably what it is.

[00:57:54] It's not.

[00:57:55] Nobody likes it.

[00:57:55] As a reader of these websites, I don't want to hear like, oh, well, Jacques Dubois was

[00:57:59] this amazing-

[00:58:01] Stupid dumb white fuck.

[00:58:02] I know it's hard to hear languages that you don't understand, especially when you can't

[00:58:05] read and you can't listen to audiobooks.

[00:58:07] Nate, this doesn't include you, so don't you defend him.

[00:58:09] I know that you can't handle foreign films, but like-

[00:58:13] There's a new film-

[00:58:14] Oh, it's a story of a cigarette and how it burns for two hours and we watch it slowly.

[00:58:18] And it's about the dying of man and mankind.

[00:58:21] He's making fun of French people.

[00:58:23] But by the way, there's a new film, Brazilian film, that's supposed to be really good that

[00:58:26] my girlfriend told me about.

[00:58:28] What's it called?

[00:58:29] I don't know.

[00:58:29] Brazil.

[00:58:30] Good listening, Nate.

[00:58:31] No, I know.

[00:58:32] I know.

[00:58:32] I'm really grateful she doesn't listen to this podcast.

[00:58:36] But no, so we-

[00:58:38] So the answer is you're not doing a top ten list.

[00:58:40] I still will have my own top ten.

[00:58:41] Where will it be?

[00:58:42] I'll probably just post it somewhere-

[00:58:44] On Twitter.

[00:58:44] On social media or something like that.

[00:58:46] I'm still here.

[00:58:48] Oh yeah, I've heard of that.

[00:58:49] Apparently it's supposed to be-

[00:58:49] Yeah, it's getting a lot of nominations.

[00:58:52] Shut up.

[00:58:52] You're an idiot.

[00:58:54] I'm still here as a walking Phoenix film.

[00:58:55] That's not what this movie is.

[00:58:56] Well, it shouldn't share the same title then.

[00:58:58] I'm sorry.

[00:59:00] There will be a top 20 on Slash Film.

[00:59:03] And I think probably it's out by the time this goes up because I believe it goes live on

[00:59:07] Okay, so then-

[00:59:08] On Tuesday.

[00:59:09] A little secret.

[00:59:10] For our listeners here, because again, Slash Film people don't listen to this, I'm sure.

[00:59:14] Where did you put-

[00:59:15] There's definitely some Slash Film people listening to it.

[00:59:16] Where did you put Saturday Night in your personal list?

[00:59:19] So I don't have my personal list figured out yet.

[00:59:22] That's not the way that we figure out the cumulative Slash Film list.

[00:59:25] What are we doing here?

[00:59:25] It's not just a handful of people anymore.

[00:59:28] We had a big thing where the Slash Film staff overall-

[00:59:33] Oh, so you don't just do your top 10 and then we're going to weight them all.

[00:59:36] And then we're going to put 20 lists together and then rank them.

[00:59:43] You can actually hear how we did it in a specific episode of the Slash Film Daily podcast that is coming out.

[00:59:49] It's either this week or during Christmas week.

[00:59:51] How argumentative does it get?

[00:59:53] It actually is pretty fun.

[00:59:54] There are some debates and there are some things that where people like they do want to push for a certain movie

[00:59:58] and like it has the same support on either side or there's another movie that has an equal amount of support.

[01:00:03] Okay, do you know what the top 10 is?

[01:00:05] I don't know off the top of my head.

[01:00:06] I know what the number one movie is for sure.

[01:00:08] You want to spoil that?

[01:00:10] No.

[01:00:11] When we stop recording, will you tell us?

[01:00:13] No, I'll tell you right now.

[01:00:14] It's Onora.

[01:00:15] Oh, okay.

[01:00:15] That's a stupid French film.

[01:00:18] It's not French at all.

[01:00:19] Okay.

[01:00:19] All right.

[01:00:20] And when you watch Onora, you'll like it for a myriad of reasons.

[01:00:23] I've seen Onora before.

[01:00:26] Every time I go home because that's my daughter's name.

[01:00:29] We can end the whole show right now.

[01:00:32] This is the last episode.

[01:00:33] We won't be back.

[01:00:34] Yeah.

[01:00:35] We won't.

[01:00:36] Sorry, Martin Short.

[01:00:37] Sorry, 50th anniversary.

[01:00:39] No.

[01:00:39] This has been good.

[01:00:40] Nope.

[01:00:40] It's not been good though.

[01:00:41] That's the thing.

[01:00:41] That's why we're stopping.

[01:00:42] All right.

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