Episode 93 - Walton Goggins (Season 50)

[00:00:06] It's the Ten to One Podcast with your host Brad Oman, featuring Ben Conowitz and Nate Lauchs. And here's the podcast. That's Don Pardo. You are a full octave higher on that one. Just pointing it out. Do you ever get tired because he's got something to say every time? No, no, no. I'm not shitting on it. I'm commenting, but it's not negative.

[00:00:34] This was 1970s, Don Pardo. I love it. I love it. Yeah, he was a younger man then. Exactly. I'm saying thank you. You can feel the youth. Thanks for switching it up in a positive way. What can I say? I like to bring smiles and laughter. Nate, it's not always negative like you think the world is. Sometimes there's positivity out here. Where? Well, we had a good fundraiser on Friday night. How about that? We did. And then Saturday night there was a new episode of Saturday Night Live, so that's also a positive thing. And it was a Mother's Day episode.

[00:01:00] Sunday was Mother's Day, and you know, well, sorry. Sorry. My mom's dead. Yeah, sorry about that. But Brad's mom is alive. My mom's alive. Yeah. Good for you guys. I'll be sad on Father's Day. I'll be sad on Father's Day. You know what there's not? There's not a stepdad day. So, I mean, Father's Day, like, I mean, I send stuff to my stepmother on Mother's Day. Okay. Oh, so boo.

[00:01:29] And what are you complaining about? Yeah, what are you crying about? Yeah, Nate. Oh, sorry you didn't get a tie this year. That you'll never wear. I do appreciate that that is the cliched running joke is like a tie. Yeah. From like, what, the 60s and 70s when, well, because guys wore ties all the time back then, right? Guys need ties. Hey, guys need ties. That's the title of this episode of the podcast where we review Saturday Night Live. Guys need ties. Hey, Brad, who hosted? What?

[00:01:56] Is this a new way of starting the podcast? I was told about it. Let's get into it. Who hosted this time? This is the penultimate episode of season 50 of Saturday Night Live, hosted by Walton Goggins. First time host. He's been riding the fame train for a little while, getting a little bit more recognition in recent years, thanks to shows like Fallout and The Righteous Gemstones and the most recent season of White Lotus. 2010's Predators.

[00:02:24] As he talks about it in his monologue, he's been coming up as a bit of a greasy, weird sex symbol. And yeah, it was cool to see him host with musical guest Arcade Fire, who's a favorite on the SNL stage. I did not know that Arcade Fire had a sex scandal or like a Me Too type thing that happened. I was unaware. I didn't know that either. Yeah. So evidently, the SNL 50 was kind of their first big gig since. Oh, that makes sense. Yeah.

[00:02:51] The lead singer got accused of. I honestly don't even know what the parameters are. I think sleeping with some women and then maybe them not necessarily feeling them feeling more pressured and stuff like that. Gotcha. We're not obviously here to talk about that. I just thought it's relevant to the show because honestly, the thing I saw on the subreddit was, where is Arcade Fire been? Yeah. And then I saw that and I was like, oh, that makes sense then. Yeesh. Oof.

[00:03:18] But these days, I do wonder, putting that to the side for a second and just talking about Arcade Fire as a musical, they've been a mainstay on SNL for years now. And so do you think Lauren just has this thing where he loves them or is it other producers that are loving this? No, I think he loves them. Yeah. I heard he loves them. Okay. I think he's a big fan. So of course, that's still then whatever Lauren says goes, right? Pretty much. All right. Fair enough. I think he's still running the show. Well, good for him. He's the show runner. That's true. The show runner.

[00:03:48] Yeah. So were you excited for Walton Goggins? Yeah. Walton Goggins is very funny. And if anything, I was maybe just curious to see what he could do and how good he would be on the show. I love him and I've only seen the first two seasons of Righteous Gemstones, but he's fantastic. Yeah. He's hilarious. Yeah. He's got a great forehead. He's got an incredible forehead. Some could say it's a five head. And speaking of that, let's get into the cold open because I want to talk about the monologue where obviously he talks about

[00:04:18] his forehead. So cold open Mother's Day opening. What starts as a Mother's Day tribute with cast members and their mothers quickly turns into a Trump monologue about Pope Leo the something, I don't know Roman numerals, and trade deals. Janine Pirro joins, introducing herself as Trump's newly appointed U.S. attorney for Washington, D.C., which is not an SNL joke. That is absolutely true. But it is a joke. Welcome back to the show.

[00:04:47] Oh, Cecily Strong returning to play her popular Janine Pirro character. I just don't care. I just don't care that the world's on fire. Seeing Cecily Strong back on stage at SNL just brings me all the joy. Especially as Janine Pirro because it is a phenomenal gag. There is something that happens, and this happened at the 50th, right, where some of these great cast members, they just come back and you're like, oh, I remember. Like, I remember how good you were, right? Right.

[00:05:17] And Cecily Strong hasn't been gone that long, but she was just so natural. And she does so well at this. What did you think of Colin Jost? Just, oh, first of all, great seeing him pop up in a sketch like this, unexpected, and the audience obviously loved it, too. Great impression. Good impression. But, of course, the best part of this is him getting whiskey spit into his mouth and swallowing it. Absolutely. Way to commit to the bit, Jost.

[00:05:46] Yeah, he is not slowly becoming, right? He's been just a solid guy for SNL for years. So he's just always willing to commit. I love that. And he's good sport. You've got to be a good sport, especially when your wife is Scarlett Johansson and she makes more money than you and is Hollywood royalty, basically. Well, let's be clear. I think that the reward comes in itself. Yeah, no, that's a pretty great homecoming, right? You walk in the door, honey, I'm home to Scarlett Johansson.

[00:06:13] You can say whatever the fuck you want about me if I'm married to Scarlett Johansson. Honestly, that is kind of bulletproof, you know, where you're like, oh, yeah, I can definitely be the butt of the joke because I'm going to go home and have millions of dollars and Scarlett Johansson as my wife. Yeah. And also, he's handsome. He's not a bad looking guy. But that is the thing. Not only are you married to Scarlett Johansson, she's the moneymaker and she wants to be married to you. Now, let's be very clear. Without her, he's doing fine. Like, he's still making money.

[00:06:43] But not the bad little one. Yeah, not Scarlett Johansson. Listen, I'm just saying. And also, let's be clear. This is the kind of situation where if someone, like, wrecked my car in the parking lot, I wouldn't even be mad about it. I was like, oh, I'll just go home to my wife, Scarlett Johansson, and not worry. That would be a really good one. I wonder if anything's, like, there's no inconvenience. He got stabbed on the subway and he's like, well, I'm going to go home to Scarlett Johansson, so this is actually a pretty good day. Nothing is ruining my day.

[00:07:14] Good stuff. All right. All right. Loved it, loved it, loved it. Let's get to the part that I want. Well, what did you think of the Trump stuff in this one? All right. It's fine. So this is the kind of stuff where they're doing this thing now where it's kind of rambling Trump. Yeah. No agenda Trump. Interrupting things. Exactly. And do you think it's written, by the way? Oh, absolutely. To a letter. To a letter. To a riff, yeah. Although I will say, James Dawson Johnson is good at riffing. I think he's good at riffing.

[00:07:41] That's how his impression on Trump went viral on Twitter, because he would just walk around and just, like, I just feel like he could riff. So it's that level of performance that you can give, but then you give structured, amazing writing to it, and that's what you get. It's a very spot. And that's why this part is not getting old for me yet, because this is a good way to do it, where you can talk about the topical stuff. It can be relevant as to what happened last week, and because they're doing it in this way, it is still enough of a spoof of itself. Yeah. Because these are just now throwing away things.

[00:08:11] Eh, whatever. Who cares? And that kind of mentality towards it is a different take on what Trump's actually doing. It is heightening it. Yeah. I agree, and I think that's why it works a little bit better than if you're just replicating a press conference or something like that. My favorite joke in this bit was when he's talking about the Popemobile. He's like, we love the Popemobile. It's the third favorite Popemobile next to Wiener and Bat. That's such a great bit. Yeah. I laughed hard at that. Uh-huh. Yeah.

[00:08:38] So, again, we've seen bad versions of political cold opens. This was not one. I mean, it wasn't good, though. I wouldn't say it wasn't good. No, I think it was good. You would categorize it as good? The spitting of the booze in Joseph's face is great. The physical comedy part of it. And if everything's middling, now that's great. Now you land on good. I think it was solid. I won't say great. Yeah. I'm going to say very good. Exceptional? Would you say exceptional? No. I would say very good.

[00:09:07] If it just would have been the Trump stuff by itself, it's just good. The very good comes because of Cecily and Joseph. Okay. All right. Moving on. Monologue by Walton Goggins. Walton discusses becoming a sex symbol at 53. He reads humorous headlines about himself, then invites his mother from the audience to share a dance that transitions from a waltz to energetic clogging.

[00:09:36] Goggins, has he been acting for like 30 years? Was he a latecomer to the scene? He's been a character actor for a while because he was on Justified and stuff like that. He was on Justified. I was not joking earlier. He was in the 2010 movie Predators directed by Robert Rodriguez. He is. He is. At least for 15 years, he's been pretty well known. But that puts him in his 30s still. And before that, I'm sure he had just the classic whatever.

[00:10:05] He was probably on either a- NYPD Blue. Exactly. Recurring on Medium or something like that. I think he was the guy who showed Dennis Franz's ass. That's what it was. He pulled it, pantsed him. He played Dennis Franz's ass. It was him. Well, his forehead. I love the self-deprecating part of this monologue. Again, it's fun to see celebrities poke fun at themselves.

[00:10:30] Also, to acknowledge my forehead's been like this since I was born kind of thing. It's remaining consistent. It's holding strong. Yeah, holding strong. Yeah, so Justified was 2010 and Predators was 2010. So that's probably when he first really became- Started taking off a little bit. Yeah, exactly. Because he's been pretty consistent since then. Because he's in the second Ant-Man movie as a secondary antagonist. He did all sorts of roles like that.

[00:11:00] A good mix of TV and movies. He was in Ant-Man and the Wasp. Just said that. Yeah, yeah. No, I'm just reading. But I'm going back further than that. He was Mr. Stone in one episode of Community in 2009. He was in Django Unchained, Lincoln. Oh, yeah, Django. Straw Dogs, Cowboys and Aliens. That classic Hollywood movie. Yeah. Damage, Criminal Minds, The Shield. Yep, there you go. Oh, The Shield. Yeah.

[00:11:28] He was in 86 episodes of The Shield back in 2002. Oh, okay. There you go. That's probably where he got his kind of bigger break. I also like the real headlines about essentially. Yeah. Because I've often wondered that. Because they are. He is a. You know, he's not Ben Affleck, right? A guy in his 50s that is kind of more traditionally handsome, right? Yeah. He is a different type of guy you would see in Alabama at a bar, right? Yeah.

[00:11:57] He looks like one of my old stepdads just in better shape. Oh, you guys are right. He played Terry in one episode of NYPD Blue in 1993. Nailed it. Perfect. Perfect. But so I like this idea of taking this, you know, I think. I also always wonder how self-aware they are of that kind of stuff, whether they pay attention to it or if they hear it from their apps. And he seemed to genuinely enjoy it. Yeah. He laughed at it. And my favorite one is, you know, where they used whom because how pretentious is that? No.

[00:12:27] It's Mother's Day. It's adorable. His mom gets up there, dances, and she's really. Shout out to Janet Long, his mom. Just a good. You know, and he gets a little choked up. You know, again, you watch this and you're exactly right. The moment's not lost on him, right? Yeah, exactly. All right. Moving on. The Second Amendment. Set in Philadelphia, 1789, the Founding Fathers finalized the First Amendment to the Constitution

[00:12:50] before Walton Goggins' character Matt suggests guns as a second right to enshrine, leading to divided opinions among the delegates. This started Walton Goggins, James Austin Johnson, Mikey Day, Andrew Smukes, and Michael Longfellow. I loved this. I thought this was really funny. And maybe I love this more because I had never thought about this is the Second Amendment, right?

[00:13:19] The idea of like, all right, anybody got any ideas for the second one? And just somebody's like, guns. Guns. And I just love, I think it fizzled out a little at the end. Like, I think they could have ended slightly stronger. Yeah. But I really thought this was good. It was great observational humor. Where are you from? America. Yeah. Like, just one of the united ones. It's just so good. Enlightened whatever that was on the candle and like really doing it.

[00:13:49] That's just good shit. No, it was. And Walton Goggins having that cool presence too. Yeah. It makes it that much more fun. And the slowly like turning around on it and actually being convinced to put it on was really good. No, it's just a very, very. And I think this leans into the. Now we're kind of getting this a little bit of a history of these historical reenacts, like the Nate Bregazzi stuff and George Washington. They're leaning a little bit into that. And I'm here for it. Again, there's so much ripe with actual historical events like this that they can get into.

[00:14:19] I'm always going to be a fan of it. Not have guns. Bare arms. Yeah. Like at the end where the narrator mentions that James was shot. Yeah. No one ever saw him again because he was shot five minutes later. Good stuff. All right. Moving on. The baby shoe. I need to formally apologize because I finally found or SNL finally found somewhere for Jane Wickline to do Jane Wickline stuff.

[00:14:49] They found it several times before. She's been great. No. Just grow up. No. Sorry you're late to the party. This is. I'm sorry you got stuck in traffic and you showed up after the clown. Sir. Sir. Let me talk. This is so much better than what she does at the weekend update. Well, because it's a full sketch. That's what I'm saying. So let her do this stuff. She can do both and both will be funny. The weekend update stuff is just fine. It's fine.

[00:15:17] There's been some funny things, but this was actually very, very good. So this is the baby shoe. Jane Wickline performs a musical number about finding a baby shoe at the zoo seeking its owner only to discover it belongs to Walton Goggins, tiny footed adult character who then expects romance. This also featured our guest starred Sam Rockwell. Out of nowhere. As a balloon animal vendor. Just love it. Who also has tiny feet.

[00:15:46] And so, Ben, what did you think of this? So it's a little reminiscent of a tiny horse. Yeah. It really made me think of that vibe. And it's so far out there that it's so funny. Like, this worked for me on a lot of levels. Now, correct me if I'm wrong. The opening part of the song, and Nate, you'll have a better ear for this than Ben will. Did this not sound like the beginning of... Final Countdown? No. Oh.

[00:16:15] That's probably why he's got a better ear than I do. Grown Up Christmas List? Yes. Nailed it. Yeah, I don't even know what that is. It's a Christmas song. Okay. So yeah, it sounds like Grown Up Christmas List. And it was... Just the beginning. The vibes of Tiny Horse. And it worked for me a lot. I loved it because I didn't know where this was going even after the first couple minutes. You know? Until... And the reveal is so good. It is very good. It's a great visual gag, and they keep it going in different directions. The Sam Rockwell thing? I didn't see that coming either. Exactly. You know? And man.

[00:16:45] And then, of course, just stopping the music completely. No. No, no. I'm not going to date you. It was a lot of great escalation and unexpected comedy. I was expecting a baby, but you found a man. Exactly. There's some great lines in this. I thought this was one of his strongest performances of the night. I just loved it. He fit perfectly in this. That was wonderful. They used the strength. It was one of those two where... I don't... You could do this with lots of hosts, but I'm not sure there's one that would have been better

[00:17:14] than Walton Goggins. Yeah. And honestly, it ties into the whole thing about his unique appearance. Right. It's because he's not ugly. He's not classically handsome. But especially in this kind of... His hair's a little slick. He's wearing like the 1950s attire. He was oddly handsome. I think that's the best way to describe it because he still looks a little odd, but he also still looks pretty dapper. And so it's kind of the perfect combination of like...

[00:17:41] He's not weird like you're seeing somebody with like a peg foot and like a hook for a hand and you know, like a horn out of their forehead. He's like a mostly normal looking guy with just a little bit something off. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'd kiss him. I'm not surprised. No. This was very funny. And the way Sam Rockwell was running with the little tiny feet too. So good. Yeah. No. The overall very good sketch. All right.

[00:18:10] It is or it was Mother's Day again, as we mentioned. So this is called Mother's Day Brunch. Walton Goggins plays a flirtatious waiter named Alvy who aggressively hits on two moms at a Mother's Day brunch while ignoring and insulting their adult sons. This starred Walton Goggins, Sarah Sherman, Heidi Gardner, Mikey Day, and Andrew Smukes. Hey, son, just because you spent nine months in there doesn't mean I can't get my 20 minutes. Yeah.

[00:18:37] Just because your mama baked you doesn't mean other men don't want to see the oven. So even though he flubbed a few lines, I didn't care. It would have been perfect if he hadn't, but he recovered pretty well. And the stuff he was saying was so audacious. And then the moms being into it, this was great. I really liked this. I was surprised with some of the stuff that they got away from this one. Because it's like right on the cusp of like, whoa. Calm down, boy.

[00:19:06] You got to spend what? What did you say? You got to spend nine months in there. I'm just trying to get 20 minutes. And the way he has dropped back into that southern kind of aggression and like still respect your elders, boy. I'm going to talk to these fine women. There's nothing you can do about it. It was, again, very stepdad-like, right? It was very. Did you unbutton another button? Yeah, I did. Because it's not like he was ever called out. Ever, right? He just leaned in the whole time. Holy shit. But also- I'm going to get a hat rack down there.

[00:19:36] But also weird stuff, too. When like, I don't know what the food was, but like the mom's talking about not like trying to get gas or something like that. It's like, oh, I don't mind a little wind in the hair. Yeah, and so that gives you a great visual about what he's doing when he's going to get that wind in his hair, right? Like, oh, wow. That's something you're putting in the viewer's mind. Yeah. I don't mind a little wind in my hair. I loved it. I loved it. I was so shocked. This was very, very funny. I was- This is one where it ended.

[00:20:05] I did immediately go back and watch it again. It was so funny. And both Heidi Gardner and Sarah Sherman were so good, too. Such- Yeah, I'm still laughing about it. All right, moving on. You, I think I've said this on this podcast many times. Whenever there's an animal in a sketch, I'm going to love it because I love dogs more than life itself. I was just at a park with my daughter and a photographer doing her senior pictures.

[00:20:34] And every dog I saw, I'm like, guys, we really need to stop. There's a dog over there I got to go talk to. I got to go investigate this. And it's just Nate petting a dog. It really was. It was like, there's a dog over there. Can we just take a fiver? Take a fiver. Nora's shoot took 30 hours. And she has 10 pictures with 10 different dogs. I'm like, Nora, Nora, Nora, get a picture with this dog. No, this one. I don't care if he's going to the bathroom. Look at this face. Hold him. He's got a wacky tail. All right. So this- Do you know what his name is? Paolo.

[00:21:07] Paolo. Actors in a Tennessee Williams-esque drama attempt to perform for an audience that includes 20 service dogs in training who begin leaving as the bad play unfolds. Perfectly silly. Like, just the- It was so silly. The hands and the prop, the paws and stuff made it brilliant. They weren't asking the dogs to do too much, so that's why I didn't really get that out of a hand. They just had to sit there. Because sometimes you'll have one sketch with a dog, but the dog has to do something, and that's when the dog gets away from him. Or has to be held the whole time. Exactly.

[00:21:37] This one, they're literally able to just sit there, and if they leave when they want, it works. Yeah. Right? One of my favorite bits with Michael Longfellow, he goes, oh, I'm so sorry. They've never been to a bad play before. It was their first bad play. It was their first bad play. It was their first play. That's just- I've seen a bad play. Oh, gosh. It's so good. And then, did you guys- Michael Longfellow was great. He was great. And so was Jane Winkline. Yep. But the funniest part to me, just listening to the fucking dialogue that the actors were saying,

[00:22:05] and what was the thing they kept repeating? Of course, I'm going to butcher it now, but it was like, we did that one time. That one time. And there was something they kept saying over and over again. This is bad writing on purpose. It's wonderful. This whole sketch worked for me. There was a line. I wish it didn't get so buried, because there was a little bit of overlap, but I think it was Jane Winkline. Who is this for? And it was clearly established that they were brother and sister. The brother and sister are kissing? Yeah.

[00:22:33] It was just so off-putting. What a bad play. Oh, yeah. No, I loved this. Loved it. All right. Moving on. I genuinely love this as well. It's time for a weekend update. Brad, get your calculator out. Get your phone out. Your TI-85. And put in a number there. Graphing calculator out. The Bradometer, zero to 100, how well Colin Jost and Michael Che interacted with one another.

[00:23:02] If the weekend update itself was good, that definitely helps the score. But really, this is about the camaraderie, the interaction. And based on Colin Jost and Michael Che's interactions with each other, how well it went over. Now, I had read on Reddit that Michael Che had hinted pretty heavily in a stand-up appearance recently that most likely he's done after this year. Oh, really? So that is not necessarily news because people have been saying after 50, what's going to happen? Yeah.

[00:23:31] There's going to be a shake-up. But if he leaves, does Colin Jost leave? Or do they do the same thing with Seth and Amy and Seth and Tina? Yeah. That's a very good question because I'm not even sure who else. Like it would be Jost and Michael Longfellow? I don't know. Honestly, if Colin Jost stays, I would love to see a season with him and Sarah Sherman. I think that then you're going to get diminishing returns on how good it is to have Sarah Sherman with Colin Jost all the time.

[00:23:59] Would you be okay with Colin Jost by himself? I think he could pull it off. I don't think it ever is as good with one. It would never be as good as with him and Colin Jost. Him and Che are the best version of Weekend. I mean, it is. I'm sorry. I know that it's recency bias, whatever, but it's the best version of it. Tina Fey and Amy Poehler are probably my second. I mean, I just think they were brilliant. But I have to admit that the – and it is because of the back and forth. It is because they talk to each other.

[00:24:29] And the whole reason that Brett Ammer kind of exists is because we love when they interact with each other. So that being said, this episode was not as – what was last week? It's like 87? 82. 82. I think this is a little lighter this time. So I'm going to say – I'm going to go 80 on this one. That's exactly what I was going to go for. Hey, bro. Hey, 80 brothers. Well, it's an 85. We're back to where we were before. We're not.

[00:24:59] It's better – you think it was better than last week? We had to recalibrate the benometer. It was 81? We said 82 and you're like, yeah, 82. You said no, it was 82 last week. No, no, you guessed 82. It was 80 – actually, it was 86 because then later you were like – Oh, now he's changing it again. No, no, because then later in the Dex thread you were like, actually, you know what? I rewatched Weekend Update and it's an 87. Okay. Yeah. So it's an 85 this week because there was still some good interaction. There was a perfect moment when Jost just broke because of just what just happened.

[00:25:28] Like, Jost did something and then he just absolutely just stopped talking and just – yeah, that was great. Jost's reaction to the Pope joke was very good. Yeah. Also, the fact that Jost did the jet falling off an aircraft carrier into the ocean again and it's like, but who in the ocean is going to use two planes? Oh, no. That's a great joke. It's a great joke. No, a lot of very solid jokes this time around.

[00:25:58] A couple of big groaners from Che, you know, as per usual. Of course. You know, and it's so sad to me that this might be – like next week might be the last time that we get this. Yeah. Especially if they do a joke swap. Yeah. With Scarlett Johansson being the host, how could they not? What's Che going to do? Stand up. Yeah, comedy. Go write somewhere. I mean, like he did his own sketch comedy show. Yeah, I know. That guy's going places. I don't think he has anything. What's he going to do? Whatever the fuck he wants. Yeah, it's Michael Che. It's true, but it's just like, come on. I don't like change, guys.

[00:26:29] You're just – okay. Can you do Brad and I a big favor? Not get sad until the season is actually over. I'm already – No, you do this thing where you're preemptively just negative. I'm already listening to the sad music about it. We've got one more awesome episode after this. No, it won't be awesome. Oh, my gosh. You'd be the kind of person who is like sitting on the Titanic just sad before they even know something's going to happen. Yeah, I mean, hello? You leave the dock and make sad. I don't know, man. Bad feeling. Got a bad feeling about this. We're in the middle of an ice ocean.

[00:26:59] This isn't going to work out for us. Nate, if you were piloting the Titanic, if you were the captain, do you think that you would hit the iceberg? No. Okay, Mark Wahlberg. Mark Wahlberg on 9-11. All right, well, where are we? Let's go to the weekend update bits and talk about those. The movie guy discussing upcoming films with mispronounced names. Now, we have another podcast called Go Flicks Yourself where we talk about the latest movies. You're going to say the same thing. This reminded you of Brad.

[00:27:29] It's just – and I think that – so we're going to like this. You think that's funny? You think that you got jokes? You got funny jokes? I got jokes. This reminded you of Brad. So what I'm trying to say is that for our listeners to this podcast, we are probably going to like this even more than the standard person who just likes comedy because this is our wheelhouse. We love movies and we love talking about them. So this tickled my personal funny bone more than I can even say. It was so good. I love – this is a recurring character for him. I love it so much.

[00:27:57] I would watch him do an hour of this. You know what's weird is I like this sketch but I'm not entirely sure why or what the point of the bit is. I still find humor in it but I don't understand like where the character came from, why it's like funny that like – like the only thing is – What's it derivative of? Yeah, because like it's – the basis of the premise is just that they bring him in. He's the movie guy. He doesn't know anything about movies. Why? Like where did this come from?

[00:28:27] So there is another character that's done Weekend Update that is – and I can't place it right now. Yeah, I was going to say – But there is another one where they bring in an expert and the expert doesn't know anything about the thing they're talking about. That's not the first time they've done this. No, no. It's a familiar formula but like – And this is so good though because – It seems like something Fred Armisen would do by the way. He leans into the accent obviously so he's mispronouncing things that we're – so there's a bit of almost like an Anthony Crespino to it. A little bit, yeah. Because you're just like what's he saying? And then like oh, that's what he's saying.

[00:28:56] And it's the turn too where it's like I got an advanced look at this one and I tell you I didn't see it. I didn't watch it. It's just – that's so funny, man. Yeah. It's so simple and I'm – And his energy is also a part of it because it's different if you're – it's different if you're like – if he plays it as a guy that's like I don't know, man. Like I'm not looking forward to it. It doesn't matter. But he's so excitable. Yeah. He's like, hey, guys, I got an advanced copy and I didn't watch it. Yeah. Like that's so funny, man. Like I watched – again, I turned this one back on. I watched this a couple of times. It's so funny.

[00:29:27] Carl So Handsome? Who? Carl So Handsome. Scarlett Johansson. Yeah, that's my wife. And I don't love that you guys all kind of really laughed too hard at that. Again, Jost is a great foil. All right. Moving on. A guy who just walked into a spider web who was supposed to discuss – Oh, my God. Oh, my God. And said he has a physical meltdown. One of my favorite things I've seen in this in a long time. I don't think I've laughed harder than when he ate shit out of the chair. Yeah.

[00:29:56] I laughed so hard. Such a good pratfall. I'm so glad to hear you say that because I thought this was like unreasonably funny. Too – I don't – I've never seen more of a basic premise be funnier. That's what I'm saying. It's just so fucking good. And who decided that this was going to be hilarious? You know what I'm saying? This is such a simple premise that just – And this is also Mikey Day being not the normal guy, right? Yeah. Mikey Day playing an actual character who's going to be wacky.

[00:30:24] There had to be a spider in the office somewhere and somebody laughed because that is exactly how I get when there's – like there's a spider on me, you know? The fact that he couldn't pull off the last little bit of his shirt because it's literally – it was a real shirt that he just tore. And he's like – And he's not missing Abday. No, no. Mikey Day is looking good. This was such good physical comedy though. The way he threw his body around and like just his voice too. Like how high it got. It was – A perfect performance. It was so good.

[00:30:54] And like you said, if you would have been like, I want to do this bit on Weekend Update. This is what it is. I can imagine people going, no. No, man. Are spiders on you? How is that funny? This almost felt like it could have been like an alt bit like on the stand-up stage too where like you just go up real quick and like all of a sudden you pretend that this happens to you. But – This is genuinely one of my favorite Weekend Update bits this season. The very end is so good too because – all right. So you still – you still want me to talk to her about – no. Get out of here. Yeah, because he's like – the way that even he delivers that line.

[00:31:25] Okay. I mean do you still – you still want me to talk about the chairs? No. Okay. So good. Yeah. Ten out of ten. Would highly recommend. Good stuff. All right. Moving on. Diane, the mom who's only read about on Facebook sharing paranoid facts about New York. Brad, what did you think of this one? I like it for the most part. I think it went on maybe one example too long. I think they should have stopped at three and that would have been good for the bit.

[00:31:53] A solid Heidi Gardner character for sure. They're all kind of adjacent to each other. I feel like a lot of them are. This is a better example than some of them though because the line that she keeps going back to which is like, I read a post. Yeah. And it's – what was the last one she did though? It was like a mixed woman because it went white, white, white. And I do know people like that and you're like, why would you – just like me? Single? Older? He was a black guy. What?

[00:32:23] He was a black guy. Is that important? Why is that important to the story? I'm not saying that – stop calling me racist. I'm not racist. I'm not racist. He was black. Why would I – He was a mixed woman. So I don't know mixed. I'm not allowed to say that. So this is – that's why this was better than some of the other stuff she's done. And you know me. I love Heidi. But this was something I was engaged with the whole time because I couldn't wait to see what the next one was. I do still agree though. Three would have been better than four. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah. Overall, a very, very fucking solid weekend update. Yeah.

[00:32:53] Oh, front to back. For the bits, one of the – I mean, was your score at all pulling in the bits? No, it usually doesn't take into account the characters unless they have a lot of – Unless it was a spider on Mikey Day. And this time that's why it was an 85. No, unless it leads to a lot of playful interaction between the characters and Jost and Che as a pair. Like Eggo? Right. Yeah. Something like that.

[00:33:22] So let's play this out. Nate wants to really dive in here. Michael Che's last episode is next week, Ben says. Will you be upset if they don't do joke swap one more time? Oh, yeah. 100%. I will be – not just – I'll be livid. There's just – it's an expectation. Now, if they say we're not going to do it and there's a good reason, fine. I respect them too much. Because Scarlett Johansson is going to be there too so that as a whole other – It has to be. Yeah. There's no reason not to. Okay.

[00:33:52] So if I'm babe-rooting this thing and calling my shot, I think that Scarlett Johansson will be on weekend update. Like, not watching it, but sitting next to him. Yeah. And he's going to make – That's what I said last week. Oh, sorry. Yeah, yeah. Really – I don't listen when you talk. Really babe-roost this one. I'm going to say something no one said yet. I'm going to really Pete Rose this one and bet on myself. All right. Moving on. I'm going to Mark McGuire this one and rig it. That's actually good, but I'm not going to laugh.

[00:34:19] Moving on to a sketch that I didn't get as much. In each deathly diner, a family visits a poorly conceived horror-themed restaurant at an amusement park where the servers struggle to create a backstory beyond saying, it might be your last. This had such good bones. Yeah. And such good structure because as somebody who likes to go to theme parks and has been with my family, like, it's exactly what that is. Like, you walk in and everybody's character-based and whatever.

[00:34:48] And if they don't know what they're doing, that's hilarious. But it went nowhere. And I was just really hoping – No escalation. Really hoping for more. Yeah. For the lack of, like, strong punchlines, it went on too long because you're right. The premise is good. It's a funny bit to keep recurring. And then also them trying to come up with stuff on the fly was really good. I did like the ending. Ending is good. But yeah, it was definitely missing a little extra spice. But again, kudos to the props department and costume design.

[00:35:17] Everything's – it's like you're literally walking into, like, a Universal Studios type thing. Yeah. It was awesome. I just loved Ashley Padilla right from the get being like, they're kind of bad at this, right? Yeah. Like, it's like the second time they – well, that's the second time you've said that. So – She was one of the best things, if there was a good thing about this. I'm really starting to like Ashley Padilla's, like, subtle kind of comments, being the straight person. I'm telling you, Anna Gasteyer made over. Yeah.

[00:35:45] No, she really does have Anna Gasteyer vibes. Yeah. The more I watch her, the more it feels – And that is incredibly high praise because if you go back and look at what Anna Gasteyer brought to the show, it was exactly what you need. You have – that Will Ferrell get off the shed bit – or sorry, at the dinner table where they're, like, cutting their – Disfunctional family. That doesn't work nearly as well unless she's there being the kind of, you know, waspy wife that's – you know. So, man, Ashley Padilla is fantastic. She is. I think just a great addition. All right.

[00:36:15] Moving on. Saturday night matinee. Boss's bathroom. A pre-recorded Dan Bulla short where Introduce Me explains a young executive being made partner who discovers his boss's squatty potty in the bathroom, leading to surreal hallucinations about people's bathroom habits. Have you guys ever used a squatty potty? I had one, yeah. Yeah. I actually used Ben's. That's probably not a joke. It's not. Do you really have one? I had one at the old house. I don't know what I did with it.

[00:36:45] Did you – like, did it help? So, it does what it says on the commercials. It does. Because – so, long story short, if you put your feet up like that, it rearranges your intestines a bit and your colon so that you can poop better. I mean, it does. It promotes gravity inside the body to let the shit come in. It really does work. So, why did you get rid of it then? I mean, I realized, like, I don't really – He eats that buffalo wobbly that's coming out pretty easy anyway. This is probably TMI.

[00:37:13] I don't really have an issue in the bathroom. So, I got it because I thought, oh, maybe this will help me. I don't know. Be less grumpy. I don't know. I got it because it was clever and the squatty potty commercials are great. It would be like going on like a fiber supplement right now. I don't really need it. It's a unicorn that poops ice cream or something. Like, that's how they market it. I got sold by the marketing. I got it. It worked, but I didn't really need it. All right. Here's the thing. This is not a sponsor of the show.

[00:37:38] However, if you'd like to be squatty potty, I will say your product 100% works. And if you have constipation issues, I promise you it would improve it. That's squattypotty.com. My hot take on this one is we have the first mediocre Saturday evening. Damn bullet. Yeah. This was not great. It was too surreal. Yeah. Yeah. It really was. It was like super weird. This is like not.

[00:38:05] The humor wasn't really finding me much. Yeah. Like, I didn't understand the impetus behind it. I don't understand. The juxtaposition of having a very, very serious formal business discussion and then cut to your very, you know, the boss you respect and admire and is giving this, shitting his brains out. That juxtaposition, I get it, but that's not enough. Yeah. Especially because it just felt weird of them to do the like retro Land of the Lost style

[00:38:36] claymation dinosaurs and creatures and jungle stuff. I wasn't even thinking about that, honestly, because that's fine, I guess. And that's more Dan Bulla. I just didn't get it with the vibe of the sketch and I didn't feel like the premise was strong enough to warrant something like that. Yeah. Because it's already hallucinogenic enough with that and then you add that other element that takes it kind of A to D. Yeah. It was very strange. I can't write something better, Dan Bulla, so I know you're a huge listener of the show and we love you. But when it was over, I was just like, huh. Yeah, I know.

[00:39:05] And this is one of those where I'm like, I don't think I'm smart enough to get this. Like, I think that there's something there that I'm just not getting. I don't think so. Well, that's just you being cocky. All right. Let's do the cover time sketch. Oh, real quick. I did tell Ashley we were watching it and I go, huh, that's a real 10 to 1. There was a cut for time sketch? No. Brad wasn't even listening to what I had to say there. But no, that was a real 10 to 1, though. It was odd. It was out there. And that's kind of where that should normally go. That's true.

[00:39:36] Pranked. Yeah, I agree with you. That was a true 10 to 1. All right. That is the episode. Now let's chat a little bit. Let's go with favorite sketch of the night before we get to MVP. It's a tough choice for me. Is it? It's not. It's Mikey Day on Weekend Update. Oh, really? We don't count those. Yep, I do. We've talked about this. Nope, man. I don't count. That's my opinion.

[00:40:04] I'm going to go because I would go with that if that was allowed. But I'm going to go with the Second Amendment because even though I think it fizzled at the end, I liked the setup. I liked what Walton Goggins was doing there. And there was enough for me to really get. I like Mother's Day brunch. That's the one I was going to pick, actually. Yeah. I was laughing a lot more with that one. And I was genuinely surprised at some of the stuff they said. And it doesn't happen super often, honestly.

[00:40:34] And I'm giving MVP to Mikey Day, literally, because I've never laughed harder at a singular thing that was so simple. On the show's probably history. He wrote that as well. I am so fucking happy. I will too because that was so fun. And we never give him credit. Yeah. He's always great. He's a prolific writer. And he never gets his due on this podcast. So, Mikey, you crushed it. It's going to be one of those scenes where I'm going to remember this one. Absolutely. And that's the thing I'm going to show. Like, my mom doesn't really watch the show all that often. I'll bring that up.

[00:41:04] Because it's not crass. It's something that's accessible. And she'll find it very funny as well. Yep. Is that yours as well? Yeah. I would give it to Mikey Day because of that. On top of the fact that he was also good in Mother's Day Brunch. Yeah. And he was in the Second Amendment. He's in everything. Yeah. He's always in everything. Also, he's got a real thick hog. Whoa. Oh, no? I mean, I'm not saying no. Abs. Abs. But I didn't know. You saw more than we saw? I mean, you can see he's packing some heat. Oh.

[00:41:33] In what specific instance do you saw this? No, I didn't see that. I wasn't really looking for it, but. You don't have to look for it. It was Mikey Clear's Day. Oh, yeah. All right. Well, this has been a weird ending to the show. All right. May 17th, 2025. There's one more new episode. Who's the host? Burt Reynolds. Scarlett Johansson. Oh, yeah. He died a few years ago. Oh, that's right. With musical guest. Arcade Fire. The Meats. Bad Bunny.

[00:42:04] Bad Bunny. Here he comes. And so, what do you guys expect in that episode? Anything. I expect. Michael Che's last episode, Ben says. I expect Scarlett Johansson at the Weekend Update desk, that first person to say it, and I expect a Bad Bunny reprisal of Shrek somehow. Do you expect, because again, Fantastic Four is around the corner. When does that come out? July. Oh, I was going to say that Pedro Pascal would maybe come back with Bad Bunny and. No. No. I can't.

[00:42:34] If he's only the musical guest, I think it would be kind of weird. I would expect someone to appear from Jurassic World or something like that instead. Okay. All right. But there's also nobody that has hosted SNL from the movie who would probably appear anyway. Yeah. That would get people really excited. You know what would be an incredible get if they just had Jeff Goldblum or Sam Neill come and just be like, don't do it? Will they do anything about Jurassic Park, you think? It's possible.

[00:43:01] But since no one will have seen the movie yet, there's only so much they can do. Okay. Anything else you're expecting or you think would be fun to see? I'll bet it's going to be great to see Scarlett Johansson just because of the way she looks. Wow. Good commentary. That's why people listen. That's why I think people listen to our podcast about three white guys talking about women. No. I'm very excited. Scarlett Johansson has proven plenty of times that she's very funny on SNL. She's already a member of the Five Timers Club. She's like a Nine Timers Club. Yeah. And so, yeah.

[00:43:30] She's one of my favorite hosts that I love to see doing it. And so it'll be great to have her back. And now that – okay. So here's – okay. I'll be a brief little bit. Now that Cecily's back, maybe. Maybe we get a little bit of like – I don't know if she's back. I don't think she's back. Listen. Now that she has the opportunity to reprise another role – I think she has an opportunity all the time. This is just because of Janine Hero being in the news. I'm going to say that Cecily Strong will be back and they're going to do another thing with Scarlett Johansson where they play dumb people at the end. You know what? Well, that would be fun.

[00:43:58] But I would prefer that they did some like a new version of – you got to buy a chandelier. Yes. That or the Chivarsky crystals. Whatever they're going to do. I want to see that. Maybe. You know what? Just be friends. With who? Me. I try. Every fucking day I try. I'm sorry. Okay. But yeah, that would be the season finale. Let's just say this episode was fantastic. Will she do an Ivanka Trump? If there's a reason to maybe.

[00:44:28] I hope they don't force it. I want to talk about Walton Goggins' episode one more time. It was fantastic. Front to back. That was fantastic. Way, way more solid than I thought it was going to be. Way better than I thought it was going to be. And I had expectations of it being pretty good. I disagree. I thought it was fine. Really? I don't think it was bad at all. I thought it was very good. No. Oh, I'm in the middle. I don't think it was fantastic, amazing, where I'm like, oh my god, this is such a good episode. I think it's definitely better than fine. I think it was very good. Yeah, I think that's the best episode. I think it's very good.

[00:44:57] On a zero to a hundred, this is at a solid 75. I think they used him well in a couple sketches. I don't think. I think he was just fine. I disagree. There's at least three sketches that he's great in. Just three. There's just three. That work well because of him. And then there's only one, I think, quote unquote bad sketch in this one. And it's the Saturday Midnight Matinee. No. The Deathly Dining one is okay. Deathly Dining is terrible. That's pretty bad. I don't think it's bad. I just don't think it lived up to its potential. No, it's bad. I think it's okay. It's bad, Brad. It's not good. Hey. But still. Nate. Stop. It's bad. No, Nate. Hold on.

[00:45:27] Shut up. It's bad. Also, you're allowed to have two kind of bad sketches. And then the other ones are so good. And then we can have it. It's incredible. And the monologue and the cold open are also very good. This is a great. This is a great. The cold open was just good. This is a great episode. This is a great episode. Great. You're a jaded little boy right now. And you need to reel it in. Yeah. My feelings. Michael Chee's leaving. This is a great episode. Here we go. A little emo, Nate. I should have never said anything. He's going to listen to Dashboard Confessional after this.

[00:45:56] My heart is in Ohio. Hands down. You got the best day in hell. He's going to go sing that. Outside of Michael Chee's house. I chimed in. Wouldn't it be better if Michael Chee stayed? All right. We'll be back next week. Let us know what you thought in the comments. What was your favorite sketch of the night? Who was your MVP? Some of the other things that maybe we didn't talk about that you want to talk about. And again, give us some good ideas for the summer. What should we talk about there?

[00:46:26] We definitely want to do some new episodes in the summer as well. And re-watch the Mikey Day weekend. Many times. If you want to laugh. Brad, where can people find you? You can find me snuggling in my bed when it's the evening. You like depression too? I like a nice cool comforter and a nice cold pillow. And I'm also on the Twitter in the blue sky and writing about stuff on slashfilm.com and talking about junk food at Brad's Junk and jumping off of buses.

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