Shaking Our Heads to the Beat: A Night at the Roxbury Deep Dive

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It's the ten-to-one podcast with your host, Brad Oman, featuring Ben Konowitz

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Mhmm. Mhmm. I'm ready.

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I'm ready.

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I bet yep. I'm up. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go.

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Are you guys ready to do the podcast?

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Let's do

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the podcast.

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Uh-huh. No. Yes. Man. Got him.

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Oh. Emilio. You're a you're a Butabi. Pew. Pew. Okay. Alright. Pew. That's about as as as funny as the movie is.

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Yeah. We did all the funny bits.

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That's not true. So I broke the

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window again. That's a funny bit.

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There's several funny bits.

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There's a couple.

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There's very, very few.

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That's it's not very very few

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there's a I can count on one hand

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no that's just as high as you can count period so

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all true

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this is another special episode of the ten to one podcast while we are on let's

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talk to Brad about his drug use

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on hiatus between seasons

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this is what we call an intervention

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we're continuing to go through the Saturday Night Live movie library and the next movie on that list takes us forward to the year nineteen ninety eight and this is a movie called

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It would be takes us back to the year nineteen ninety. We're in twenty twenty four. But we

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jumped forward from Stuart Smalley.

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Well, Well, you should've said that.

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Well, people understand if they're long time listeners and they listen better than you do.

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There's only two of them.

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So that brings us to A Night at the Roxbury.

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Are are you making this podcast into something very, like, official? And this takes us back

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Now, to come with me if you will

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here's a UFO known as A Knight Upon the Roxbury.

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Nate where were you in the year nineteen ninety eight? Feral Will and Catan Chris.

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What do we say about they?

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Little James Lipton in there.

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I tried my best.

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That's pretty good.

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Yeah. So we're we're talking about A Night of the Roxbury, which is this is the the first of a new batch of Saturday Night Live movies based on popular sketches at the time. We had a little bit of a run-in the early nineties after Wayne's World was a big hit, and we got Coneheads and Wayne's World two and Stewart Stays His Family and its Pat and all these things, but they they very much tapered off, and none of them were anywhere near as big of a hit as Wayne's World was. Many of them were even box office bombs, And as we'll soon see, that didn't change much, as we went into the late nineties and early two thousands with these new SNL movies.

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Yeah. It's it's the it's tough, man. Taking a turn from Stuart Saves' family, which we talked about at length last time, which could have been an independent film, could have been it was a way better movie in a lot of ways than we thought it was gonna be, but now we're just kinda back to this is the dreck of, like, what you think of when you think of an SNL movie normally, in my opinion. It's, like, yeah. It's a throwaway. These characters should never have been made into a feature film. It's just it's a lot of just extending a a premise that doesn't need to be extended.

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I mean, they should just think it's packed, Because if not, this would be the worstest style film of all time.

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Well, I'm not sure I would I mean, at least up until this point. Because let's not forget, we're we're coming up on Blues Brothers two thousand.

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I've never seen that, by the way. I haven't either.

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It'll it'll be hard to be worse than this.

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Is it good man? Just is it just John? Good man? Okay.

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So let's come with me a little further back in nineteen ninety eight. That's not this one.

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Oh, sorry.

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No. So, the original, Roxbury sketch, which is the which is known as the Roxbury guys because the night at the Roxbury obviously wasn't a thing yet, debuted on March twenty third nineteen ninety six. Do you do you wanna take a guess? Nate, if you know, don't guess.

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I won't.

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Because you might have researched. Who

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Put my friends like Ben did not research. We know this. Who hosted this episode? Nineteen ninety six. I'm gonna go with nineteen ninety six. Somebody got very popular. It was Charles Barkley.

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No. I'll give you a hint. It's a former cast member.

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Nineteen ninety six, that's going to be I'll

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give you another hint. One of my favorite former cast members.

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Ellen Cleghorn.

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Close. Close. Very similar in every aspect. It is a man by the name of Phil Hartman.

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The late great.

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The The late great Phil Hartman was hosting on March twenty third nineteen ninety six. This is where the Roxbury guys debuted. Phil Hartman was not in the sketch though, and in fact, this is the only version of the Roxbury guys where the host did not appear in the Roxbury guys sketch throughout their entire run on Saturday Night Live.

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And these days, if you watch Saturday Night Live, it is extremely rare for the host to not be in the sketch. Correct. They are in everything these

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days.

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Back in the nineties, not so much.

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And also, unique of of the debut of this sketch, is first of all, it was only two minutes long. It was very brief.

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Which, I'm pro shorter sketches.

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Yeah. And this was the very basic setup of what the Roxbury guys were until it expanded into different sort of avenues, where it's Chris Kattan and Will Ferrell as the Butabe brothers. They're in the China Club and they're dancing. They're not dancing to What is Love. Some flares of what the characters would become, but ultimately, you don't see really who the characters are until the movie. And the movie changes how the characters appear in a couple of the later iterations of the Roxbury sketches because if you listen to Will Ferrell in the early versions of the Roxbury sketches, he he talks like this. And it's like it's like, hey, I'm I'm just a weird guy. And like like he probably works like on Wall Street or something. And they're very much doing the the the coke nose thing, even though you never see them do coke in the sketch. And they're so they're just douche bags. And their eyebrows look really bad in early versions of the sketch. Like, they're just, like, pasted on pitch black eyebrows. They look terrible. So so yeah. Nineteen ninety six is when the Roxbury guys began.

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They said we need to make a movie, a full length feature movie about this.

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There was another another thing about the first, sketch of the Roxbury, guys that I noticed that I I thought was interesting. There was, there was two other characters in this. Right? They were not featured. They were just in the sketch in the background. Mhmm. One of them was the great Cheri Oteri. The other one was a person that was only on SNL for one season.

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Who was it? Oh, it's, oh, no. I'm thinking of a different, sketch. So the first one, I don't remember. David Koechner. Oh, interesting.

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I forgot he was on I

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I must have I must have missed him. Himself.

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Yeah. I I forgot he was on Or was he? He He was the bartender.

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Oh, okay. I wasn't paying attention.

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That's what I'm saying. You you would easily miss him. But, like, I I saw him in the background, and I thought, I forgot David Koechner was on SNL. That's interesting. But yeah. For sure. And they don't play, in that first episode or in that first iteration. They don't play the, what is love?

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What is the song they do? I I

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I I said that.

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I know. I'm just I just I didn't hear you say that,

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but What was the song? Do you know?

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So the the first song from the sketch was actually More and More by Captain Hollywood Prodas. Oh. The classic.

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Yeah. More and more and more. And bam bam bam bam bam bam

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bam bam. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Still very much a house techno, you know, pop song, but nowhere near as iconic as What is Love?

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Baby don't hurt me. Don't hurt me. No No

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No No more. No more.

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No more.

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So the second iteration of this is basically what probably people immediately think of when they think of the Roxbury guys.

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The Jim Carrey one? Correct.

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The the I couldn't believe that the second iteration of the Roxbury guys was the one with Jim Carrey because I would have thought that Jim Carrey arrived at a time when the Roxbury guys were already well established. But no.

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I'm gonna guess this is why this sketch became a thing. Right?

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I would imagine it helped for sure.

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Because he he was an uncredited writer of the film.

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Yes. Jim Carrey?

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Well, so that's that's that's what it says on the IMDB. I don't necessarily believe it because there's nothing else out there that indicates as much. So I don't know if someone made up that fact or if they Or

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they took enough mannerisms from what his ideas were

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Right.

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On it to be like, yeah, we should give him an uncredited The The

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The The only thing that makes me think that it could be true, or it could or or could easily inform the lie is that there is a reference to Jim Carrey in the movie where Jess Palminteri is like, hey, Jim Carrey. Come here, you pet detective bastard.

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And, again, it just says that he contributed to the script. So it doesn't it doesn't say he was in the writing room or anything.

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I don't know.

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But that doesn't it wouldn't shock me if, again, they were friends at the time Maybe. And they met with him and said, this is what we're doing. Do you have any ideas?

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Stranger things have happened. But yeah. So this this is the most, I think, known well known version of this version of the

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Tom Hanks one I think I do remember pretty much. much.

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much. much. Tom Hanks pretty big and Tom Hanks is the next one. But the Jim Carrey one, it's Jim Carrey doing the exact same thing with the guys, going to multiple locations. And he's got the neck

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for it. Better.

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Yeah. He's got he's got a neck for it.

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You know?

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Right? He he can

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he can do the the whole bop.

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He's a he's a he's a stretch Armstrong come to life.

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Yep.

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So he's mister rubber face, so he can do those Yep. Exaggerated mannerisms perfectly.

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And

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and that's kind of what his physical comedy was what was really selling him at that time

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in the early nineties.

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Come on. He's playing a burnout cokehead guy in a club, which allows Jim Carrey to go off the rails, which is what he's best at.

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Brad, you would you have maybe know this, but was Jim Carrey a ground lane at all? Would he was he into sketch comedy at all? Because I know that they wrote this sketch when they were at the ground lanes, Will Ferrell and Chris Kattan. So So

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So So I know Jim Carrey did stand up. Came from

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stand up and then got In Living Color.

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Yeah. Okay. I didn't know if he was ever a sketch comedian.

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I don't believe he ever did set

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up a real role. Yeah. Ever at any of the staple places where people did like, he might have done sketch comedy here and there, but he was mostly known for doing stand up and, like, doing characters in stand up. up.

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up. up. Same characters in stand up. Yeah. Okay.

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But but yeah. And so this this version is actually where the Roxbury guys' sketch really takes shape because this is where they establish them going to multiple locations in a single night around New York City. They establish them being in a car in between those locations, and that is the entire shape of the sketch as it would continue forward.

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And How many of these overall?

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Overall Did they after nineteen ninety six, we got one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight

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One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine,

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nine, nine times.

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Nine till that is that is roughly half of what they did with Stuart Smalley, which is shocking, honestly.

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But yeah. Nine and three seasons, essentially? Four?

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Yeah. Between nineteen ninety six and then nineteen ninety eight was the last one. And they only did one in nineteen ninety eight. And I we'll talk about actually why that probably is, once we get a little bit later into the movie. But, like Ben said, Tom Hanks did one, which was another another very famous one. Martin Short did one. He was the fourth one Wow. Where he plays someone who comes in from another country, some vague Middle Eastern country. And, like, they give him a makeover, and he starts hanging out with them.

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Can we can we time out about the Martin Short real quick? Because can we talk for our listeners, who have not seen it yet, go search out Martin Short doing Jimmy Nick Glick on Jimmy Kimmel right now.

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Yes. That's a it's a good point because even though Jiminy Glick is not a Saturday Night Live character, it is You're a fan of comedy.

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You're a fan of comedy. Yeah. So, like

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The first interview he did on Kimmel for Martin Short's guest hosting stint was with Bill Hader if you need a Saturday Night Live connection, and it is hilarious.

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I I skipped the Nick Kroll one. I didn't really like that one.

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I haven't watched the Kroll

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one yet. But the

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other one Nick, he's not doing a

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Nick was trying to yes and him a little bit.

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That's too much. Work. Yeah.

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Yeah. You don't you don't yes and Jimmy Glick. You let him do his things. You know? Push back on Jimmy Glick. That's what he's supposed to do.

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Or you just you just laugh at him like Bill Hader did. Yeah.

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Who Bill Hader could not stop laughing, and it was a door.

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He was in his happy place. It's just like watching his comic hero do what he does. Best.

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Yes.

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But it is just

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Jiminy Glick is one of the better characters of all time as far as just just soup to nuts. It's the fat suit. It's the food that he eats. It's the treatment of the it's between two ferns before between two ferns.

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And it's sketch comedy gold. Right? I know it's on on Jimmy Kimmel, but this is sketch comedy. Right? Yeah.

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Hundred percent.

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It is so good and just it's just

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perfect character work.

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Fun to see a varsity level performer come in, and he just knocked out of the park. Crush. Again, the connection, obviously, is he did this sketch when Martin Short hosted, but also I just wanna as many people to see this as possible because it's and you wrote about it, I know, on Slashfilm, but

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it's really good. Yeah. And so that that was what we'll call the tangent to one part of the podcast.

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Mhmm. Wow.

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You're welcome, everybody. So the next version of the sketch I wanna talk about because this is an extremely unique version that I can't ever recall seeing something like this done before Saturday Night Live. This is the one that was hosted by Alec Baldwin, February twenty second nineteen ninety seven. Night of the Roxbury sketch or, the Roxbury guy sketch appears right after the monologue. But not only does it not appear just after the monologue, it appears morphed from the monologue because Alec Baldwin's monologue is one of those monologues where he starts going around backstage and talking about how great Saturday Night Live is and how cool how cool, like, all the the background action is and everything. And they'd make some jokes about the background, but then they actually prepare him for the sketch live on air while he's doing the monologue. They put on his wig. They take off his shirt and jacket, put on a new one. He walks to the set of where the sketch is gonna be, exits through the door that he's going to enter, and they begin the Roxbury sketch straight from the monologue.

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That's fun.

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It's really cool.

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And that's a that's a choice. You know? That's a It is. A a different choice. Lauren was, like, gone the whole whole

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whole whole day. And Lauren's in the sketch. That's so crazy. Lauren's in the sketch Lauren's in the sketch appearing as a guy painting one of the matte backgrounds with a big paint overall suit on.

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You don't see a lot of formula changing

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Yeah.

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You know, with the show all that often.

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I I had never seen, seen it before. And so I was like, oh my gosh. This is really fucking cool.

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That's awesome.

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The

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one bad thing I will say about the Roxbury, Guy sketches is none of them are officially available online because of music rights. Right. Thanks to What is Love and the original song they used, they don't have the rights to keep paying to stream those. And they are not even available in the episodes that are on Peacock because that's where I originally tried to find them. The only way I was able to watch most of these sketches

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He got it off Craigslist.

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Was, a, Reddit, but, b, the actual more superior source because they have the more rare clips, and this is the only time I'll ever give them a compliment, is TikTok. TikTok is a treasure trove of old SNL sketches that are not available anywhere. That. Yeah. Yeah. It's incredible.

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Because TikTok doesn't give a shit about music rights?

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TikTok doesn't answer to any piracy laws because of China. So they don't really have to do it. Like, they there's no way to reinforce it. China. So it's a bummer because there are a lot of people pirating movies on TikTok in chunks. But when it comes

[00:15:54.70] - Nate Loucks

Of all people that I think would have a problem with it, it

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would be you.

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I do. But when it comes to media But

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when it comes to the thing that I want No.

[00:16:00.60] - Brad Oman

No. Well, no. But when it comes to But I want No.

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I wanna see this, though. This I wanna see. see.

[00:16:04.00] - Brad Oman

see. see. So but here's the thing. And this is the trouble that I have with this is why I'm a physical media person is when you have, like, companies, like, big com conglomerates like NBCUniversal and stuff like that that take material of they off from streaming and don't have it officially available for her, whether it's because of music rights or because they just don't wanna pay to have it on a server somewhere anymore. That's when, like, okay. Well, then we have no choice but to pirate this if, like, we want to watch it because you don't make it available anywhere else for us to watch.

[00:16:29.60] - Ben Konowitz

And you also I didn't know this until Brad told me, but if you buy a movie on, like, iTunes, and it's in your library, they can just take it back and, like, make it go away.

[00:16:39.70] - Brad Oman

That's a hundred percent true. You do not own any of the digital movies that you have bought in the past. Even Even

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Even Even though he said, I purchased it. I bought it.

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They do not belong to you. All of your digital movies can disappear one day if

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they decide. But if I buy a physical DVD, I need a physical DVD player, which is clutter. And then I've gotta find places Clutter. Then I've gotta find places to put all the DVDs, which is a lot of space. It is.

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And then also, you have to, like

[00:17:06.59] - Nate Loucks

Yeah. They have to tap on your DVD they have to tap on your DVD player and bang on it two times.

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You gotta get all the things.

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It's not an NES. It's It's not an old Nintendo.

[00:17:15.00] - Ben Konowitz

You get the the spray Yeah. And, like, and then you get a, a disc cleaner.

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They even take it to the, disc resell store so they can resurface it.

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Family Video used to offer that service.

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I remember that.

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It was, like, fifty cents, and then, like, Mike Flores would just be, like, and put it in the disc watcher and and give it back to me, like, wait. And I'm, like, is that a is that a sand wheel? Is that a is that a sander? I was, like, it actually looks worse when it came out. But But

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But But it did work better.

[00:17:41.79] - Ben Konowitz

It did work better. Yeah. It did. It did.

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Adam Sander.

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Oh, boy. Wow.

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Okay. So the next version is the first time we get a female host involved. Do you know do you know who it is?

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Jennifer Garner.

[00:17:55.59] - Brad Oman

No. Because this is nineteen ninety before.

[00:17:58.59] - Nate Loucks

What was the show she was on?

[00:17:59.90] - Brad Oman

Alias. Yeah. It was It had been, like, just before Alias, probably.

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Alright. Mar Margo Kidder. No.

[00:18:05.50] - Brad Oman

No. No. No. No. No.

[00:18:05.90] - Nate Loucks

No. Sanjay, what

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are you doing?

[00:18:08.29] - Ben Konowitz

You're well, here's the thing. You're asking me. You're getting, like, you're looking me, like, guess.

[00:18:12.29] - Brad Oman

Well, like, think of nineteen ninety seven. I wanna I wanna know your not not

[00:18:14.90] - Nate Loucks

not not kidding. Let me

[00:18:16.09] - Brad Oman

let me see.

[00:18:16.59] - Ben Konowitz

Lois Lane

[00:18:17.29] - Brad Oman

is very famous. Listen to me. Let me see

[00:18:19.09] - Nate Loucks

if you He He

[00:18:19.29] - Ben Konowitz

He He just kicked me.

[00:18:20.09] - Nate Loucks

Let me see if you and I can do.

[00:18:21.59] - Brad Oman

Audrey, come here. Nights. Sunday nights. Okay.

[00:18:24.90] - Nate Loucks

You got feeling that special feeling when you watch this show with women on the beach?

[00:18:32.29] - Ben Konowitz

Marge Simpson. Oh, sorry. Pamela Anderson.

[00:18:35.50] - Brad Oman

He was right. It's Marge Simpson. Yeah. Pamela Anderson hosted on April nineteenth nineteen ninety seven.

[00:18:40.59] - Nate Loucks

Seven Sunday nights, I think.

[00:18:41.90] - Ben Konowitz

She was promoting barbed wire.

[00:18:43.79] - Brad Oman

Yes. And now this version is maybe a little more creepy than the typical version of the Roxbury guy. Because what we haven't mentioned up in this point is that, the Roxbury sketches maybe haven't aged quite as well because they follow two creepy guys who are forcing themselves upon women.

[00:18:58.20] - Ben Konowitz

Yeah. Well, and banging their crotches into them physically on the dance floor, rubbing their genitalia in a way that says we're fucking on the dance floor.

[00:19:07.79] - Brad Oman

Yes. It's a bit of a problem.

[00:19:09.29] - Ben Konowitz

It's a bit windy.

[00:19:10.40] - Nate Loucks

Significant amount of sexual assault. Yes.

[00:19:12.29] - Brad Oman

Yes. Correct. And so

[00:19:13.70] - Ben Konowitz

Especially because in the very first one with Chariotary, if you watch that, she's looking at them, like, I don't want this. Oh. This is not what I want. Hundred percent.

[00:19:20.79] - Brad Oman

She never wants it.

[00:19:21.50] - Ben Konowitz

So it's nobody. None none of them ever

[00:19:23.00] - Brad Oman

want it. Yeah. But Pamela Anderson But they're

[00:19:25.40] - Ben Konowitz

like, you know what? Eight more of these and a movie.

[00:19:27.90] - Brad Oman

Pamela Anderson, doesn't want it either. But and so but so so she leaves the club, but they they follow her.

[00:19:35.29] - Ben Konowitz

Okay.

[00:19:36.00] - Brad Oman

Yeah. So So, like, she's she's in her own car and for somehow, they have her cell phone number. And so they both call her and she was she's like, what the and she throws her phone and smashes their windshield. The the funny part though

[00:19:47.40] - Ben Konowitz

Oh, yeah. What's the funny part? The The

[00:19:48.59] - Brad Oman

The The one that that works because that doesn't make any sense and is that, she's she's gone to, like, health club or she's, like, at her hotel or whatever. She's in the hot tub. That's the the SNL hot tub set that they have for sketches like this. And she's in the hot tub, and they just come rising out of the jacuzzi, which is a funny gag, you know? But but yeah. So Pamela Anderson was was the the first famous, female who was the object of their affection in The Rock's Paradise.

[00:20:14.09] - Nate Loucks

Fun fact about this. K. In that sketch, there was another dancer in that sketch played by

[00:20:22.29] - Ben Konowitz

Jennifer Lopez.

[00:20:23.29] - Nate Loucks

Nope. It was a male, The brother of Will Ferrell, Patrick Ferrell.

[00:20:29.59] - Brad Oman

Oh. Sketch. Yeah. Patrick Ferrell has popped up in some of Will Ferrell's movies as well.

[00:20:33.20] - Nate Loucks

No. He he I I looked him up on, SNL archives dot net. If you're an SNL fan, certainly visit that site. I think he was probably in a dozen or two sketches on SNL as a background person. Mhmm. So, because again Similar

[00:20:46.50] - Brad Oman

to how Chris Farley's brother was also seen in the You

[00:20:48.79] - Nate Loucks

know, if you ever watch the show and you know that there's some scenes that happen in cafes or clubs like this, they always need Extras. Extras. And sometimes they pull the

[00:20:55.59] - Ben Konowitz

staff in or

[00:20:55.79] - Brad Oman

the, you know Writers. The The

[00:20:56.20] - Nate Loucks

The The writers, these kind of things. But if you've got a friend, hey, my brother my brother's in town. He wants to be on it. Great. Come come in here. And that's a fun story to give. So

[00:21:07.20] - Brad Oman

It is. Yep. The next one we got was with Sylvester Stallone, and this turned into a a Rocky themed version of the Roxbury.

[00:21:15.50] - Nate Loucks

Wasn't he good? Lot Lot

[00:21:16.29] - Brad Oman

Lot Lot of Rocky jokes, in this one where he one where which was very concerning where, he doesn't know how to dance. And so when he tries to Stallone? Yeah. Not not not as an not as an actor as a character. He he doesn't know how to dance, and he he goes to, like, punch the woman instead. Oh my god. Like like Rocky, but it's like, woah. Wait. What's going on?

[00:21:37.79] - Ben Konowitz

We don't even do that.

[00:21:40.29] - Brad Oman

Like, we'll hump them, but don't punch them.

[00:21:42.70] - Ben Konowitz

We we we penis punch. We do not hand punch.

[00:21:45.29] - Nate Loucks

But so the Patrick fails in that one too. I just is the Patrick Farrell podcast now? Thanks, man. Appreciate it.

[00:21:50.50] - Ben Konowitz

Yeah. Let's move on.

[00:21:51.79] - Brad Oman

That one. Hey. If you ever wanna interrupt if you're gonna interrupt the flow with other fun facts

[00:21:56.00] - Nate Loucks

I I I'm I'm on I'm on Patrick Farrell watch right now. Yeah. Good. You know who else is in that? Ben's favorite, Jim Brewer.

[00:22:03.40] - Brad Oman

That is that is true.

[00:22:04.50] - Ben Konowitz

What what is what is wrong with you? Jim Jim

[00:22:06.20] - Brad Oman

Brewer is in this one, but they they do, one fun variation where they're in the car and they're listening to What is Love, but Sylvester Stallone, he he can't quite get the thing down so he changes the song to Eye of the Tiger and he's fucking just jamming out to that of course

[00:22:20.00] - Ben Konowitz

of course

[00:22:21.29] - Brad Oman

but yeah. And then, like, of course at the end, he's like, he admits that, like, he can't dance, but then they get him to do it, and it's like, it's funny. The next iteration would happen in December of nineteen ninety seven, and this, I actually kind of like the later versions of the sketch because, like, it evolved it into different They actually premises.

[00:22:38.70] - Nate Loucks

They do the Yeah.

[00:22:39.79] - Brad Oman

Like like, they do the same thing at first, but then it changes into a thing. So, like, this is the one where they they start to throw Cherio Terry around between them, but then she's like, hey. Hey. Wait a minute. She's like, I don't really appreciate this. You know? She's like, not not one time did any either of you ever ask me if I wanted to dance. And And then she's like, you need to like to see a professional or something like that. So they go to a psychiatrist's office and the psychiatrist is played by Helen Hunt, and so she tries to get to, like, the the the root of, like, you know, why they're doing what they're doing and, like, to try and help them be better. And then there is a a fun cameo in this one. Can you guess in December of nineteen ninety seven with Helen Hunt as host who the guest might be?

[00:23:20.70] - Ben Konowitz

Haley Joel Osment.

[00:23:22.00] - Brad Oman

No. Why?

[00:23:22.90] - Ben Konowitz

I don't know. I just thought it was

[00:23:24.40] - Brad Oman

because it pay it forward?

[00:23:25.20] - Ben Konowitz

Yeah.

[00:23:25.29] - Brad Oman

It came on, like, two thousand one.

[00:23:26.50] - Ben Konowitz

Oh, well, you know what? They were still friends. What? I don't know.

[00:23:31.40] - Brad Oman

But you're close. You're on the right path.

[00:23:33.29] - Ben Konowitz

Jack Nicholson.

[00:23:34.20] - Brad Oman

Yes. Jack Nicholson pops in. So Helen Hunt, basically said

[00:23:39.09] - Ben Konowitz

Tries anger management.

[00:23:40.29] - Brad Oman

Tries to tell the guys that no one's into that, like, cool suit sunglasses slicked back hair. And Jack Nicholson comes in. He's like he's like, hey, honey. Are you almost done? And then,

[00:23:51.50] - Ben Konowitz

Oh, because he's playing the the therapist's husband. Yeah. Ah, okay. And And

[00:23:55.50] - Brad Oman

And And so the best part is that, the song begins at the very end when Jack Nicholson is leaving and he starts on the way out.

[00:24:01.70] - Ben Konowitz

Doing the thing. Yeah.

[00:24:03.79] - Brad Oman

So that that was a good one. The last one that they ever do is September twenty six nineteen ninety eight.

[00:24:10.40] - Ben Konowitz

Al Gore.

[00:24:11.29] - Brad Oman

No. Close though. Cameron Diaz. So what's interesting about this sketch is it kind of starts out like it's a completely different kind of sketch. It's at a completely different club. It's set up almost like a dark crime kind of vibe where Cameron Diaz

[00:24:28.20] - Ben Konowitz

crime club?

[00:24:29.00] - Brad Oman

Where Cameron Diaz is wearing this, like, black dress and a black wig. She talks to Billy Corgan from Smashing Pumpkins and addresses them, like, as such, like, they're there hanging out. It's just like, hey, Smashing Pumpkins.

[00:24:39.00] - Ben Konowitz

Hey, Billy Corgan in Smashing Pumpkins. No.

[00:24:40.59] - Brad Oman

She literally says, hey, Smashing Pumpkins. And so then so then it pans over. She's like, who's the new guys? And, of course, it's the Roxbury guys, and they're dancing. But this evolves because they it kind of takes them to where they've never gone before where she's into them. And she takes them back to, like, her her room and stuff. And, like, they seem seemingly start to hook up, but then she jumps out of the covers, and they're both in with each other where, like, Ferrell is, like, behind Catan. They're like, woah, woah, because homophobia is funny. Gay. But then we get, what is arguably, potentially, maybe a bigger cameo It's It's

[00:25:21.09] - Nate Loucks

It's It's a crossover hit.

[00:25:22.00] - Brad Oman

Than Jack Nicholson. Can you guess who the other cameo might be?

[00:25:27.20] - Ben Konowitz

Ben Siller.

[00:25:28.00] - Brad Oman

No. I'll give you a hint. They're a former cast member and a former big time host. Think Eastern European.

[00:25:36.50] - Ben Konowitz

A former cast member and a and a and a a Eastern European Joe Piscopo.

[00:25:42.09] - Nate Loucks

No. Characters. Characters.

[00:25:43.40] - Ben Konowitz

Oh, characters. Gotcha. I don't

[00:25:45.70] - Brad Oman

know. Well, there's two new guys on the scene, and they are wild and crazy guys. Dan Aykroyd and Steve Martin appear in this sketch. As those As two wild and crazy

[00:25:57.29] - Nate Loucks

guys. Brothers.

[00:25:58.20] - Brad Oman

This is the first time the best Festering brothers have appeared on Saturday Night Live in twenty years when this happens. Last time it was was in nineteen seventy eight. And it was and the only time they ever appeared was when Steve Martin hosted the show. So this was a a curveball out of nowhere and the audience went fucking wild.

[00:26:18.00] - Ben Konowitz

I bet. Yeah.

[00:26:18.70] - Brad Oman

Like, I I I like I can't even imagine how exciting that would be because, like, I when I went to look up well, they had to have done this, like, more recently, but it had been twenty years since they did anything with those characters.

[00:26:27.40] - Ben Konowitz

They really

[00:26:27.70] - Nate Loucks

did those characters before this four times.

[00:26:30.09] - Brad Oman

Yeah. They wasn't like a a super popular thing.

[00:26:32.70] - Nate Loucks

For some reason, that's that would probably in the top ten for me characters Yeah. Of SNL that are kind of institution.

[00:26:38.59] - Ben Konowitz

We're two wild and crazy guys.

[00:26:40.50] - Nate Loucks

And they weren't doing it all that much.

[00:26:42.79] - Brad Oman

Yeah. Exactly. So so yeah. So we get two Wild and Crazy Guys. Funnily enough, the next time that they appear wouldn't be for another fifteen years. And do you wanna know who hosted that episode? You

[00:26:52.70] - Ben Konowitz

talking about Wild and Crazy Guys? Yep. Yep. So that would have been, two thousand and thirteen?

[00:26:59.70] - Brad Oman

Two thousand, good good math.

[00:27:01.50] - Nate Loucks

Yeah. No. He did math right.

[00:27:03.00] - Ben Konowitz

Twenty thirteen.

[00:27:03.79] - Nate Loucks

That's why he's a business owner.

[00:27:05.20] - Ben Konowitz

Oh, yeah. It would have been, Peyton Manning.

[00:27:09.20] - Brad Oman

No. Close.

[00:27:10.70] - Nate Loucks

Who else who else was killing Stop

[00:27:12.50] - Ben Konowitz

saying close. Every time I do you're gonna be like, Dakota Johnson.

[00:27:16.59] - Brad Oman

No. Who else was killing

[00:27:18.00] - Nate Loucks

it on SNL at that point?

[00:27:19.79] - Ben Konowitz

In twenty thirteen, the lonely island.

[00:27:21.70] - Brad Oman

Well, get closer? You're getting closer. Getting warmer.

[00:27:24.20] - Ben Konowitz

Andy Samberg.

[00:27:25.09] - Brad Oman

Well, he's good. I mean, he why he's not hosting.

[00:27:28.29] - Nate Loucks

Hey. Who Andy Samberg did a very famous, lonely island sketch with this.

[00:27:34.59] - Ben Konowitz

Dig in a box, so Timberlake's coming out?

[00:27:37.59] - Brad Oman

Oh. Timberlake was when two of them crazy guys came back again. Oh. So there you go. This and so that sketch in nineteen ninety eight, that was the last time, the Roxbury guys would ever appear on Saturday Night Live. The movie came out in October.

[00:27:51.70] - Ben Konowitz

And that's why.

[00:27:52.59] - Brad Oman

Well, no. So the movie would come out the next week, and and that's basically why the Roxbury guys came back.

[00:27:58.29] - Ben Konowitz

Sure.

[00:27:59.40] - Brad Oman

So the movie itself was released on October second nineteen ninety eight. As you might guess, it did not do well. It opened at number four at the box office the weekend it came out

[00:28:09.50] - Ben Konowitz

out of three?

[00:28:11.20] - Brad Oman

No no the movies that preceded it on the box office chart

[00:28:15.40] - Ben Konowitz

oh let me no I'm not gonna

[00:28:16.40] - Brad Oman

go that weekend Number one was Antz with a z. I I

[00:28:20.00] - Nate Loucks

I I saw Antz. You didn't see Antz?

[00:28:21.29] - Ben Konowitz

I saw Antz. No. I I

[00:28:22.00] - Brad Oman

I I did see Antz.

[00:28:22.50] - Ben Konowitz

Good movie.

[00:28:23.00] - Brad Oman

Yeah. Yeah. Well, what what

[00:28:23.79] - Ben Konowitz

Yeah. Probably.

[00:28:24.20] - Brad Oman

So it

[00:28:24.50] - Nate Loucks

has a z, so what?

[00:28:26.09] - Brad Oman

Number two, what dreams may come with Robin Williams.

[00:28:28.50] - Ben Konowitz

I like George Johnson.

[00:28:29.40] - Brad Oman

It's good. Do you

[00:28:30.20] - Nate Loucks

know why I liked it? Tell me. Because it's super sad.

[00:28:32.90] - Brad Oman

Yep. Number three, Rush Hour.

[00:28:36.20] - Ben Konowitz

In its seventeenth week?

[00:28:37.50] - Brad Oman

Yeah. It had been, like, eight

[00:28:38.29] - Ben Konowitz

weeks. Yeah.

[00:28:39.90] - Brad Oman

Other movies on still on the charts at this time, though below Night of the Roxbury opening at number four, Ronin, Urban Legend, There's Something About Mary.

[00:28:49.29] - Ben Konowitz

That that would have been out for weeks and weeks. Twelve weeks Yeah.

[00:28:52.20] - Brad Oman

Still on the top ten incredibly.

[00:28:53.70] - Nate Loucks

Well, because it was

[00:28:54.79] - Brad Oman

Saving Private Ryan in its eleventh week Great film. Blade

[00:28:58.70] - Ben Konowitz

In its third week.

[00:29:00.09] - Brad Oman

Rounders I have Stella got her groove back Oh, girl. And Small soldiers Yeah. With Phil Hartman.

[00:29:09.09] - Ben Konowitz

Full circle.

[00:29:09.40] - Brad Oman

Full circle, bitches. So neither the racks where it comes out, it's yeah. It's it's not well received. Overall, it's Tireboxup was run. It lasted in theaters about five weeks, and it is only making over thirty million dollars by the time it's done. Not a big hit Sure. For Sound Life. Now, will you But still did make back

[00:29:25.70] - Nate Loucks

its budget at least. Like

[00:29:27.29] - Brad Oman

Sure. It was a small budget we made. Now, so did you guys see Neither Rockstar when it came out in theaters?

[00:29:31.40] - Nate Loucks

I had no desire to see this one.

[00:29:33.70] - Ben Konowitz

I did not.

[00:29:34.59] - Brad Oman

Wow. Really? No. If

[00:29:36.59] - Nate Loucks

it had because I also wasn't a Will Ferrell fan. Like, I like Will Ferrell on SNL. If this had Chris

[00:29:41.50] - Ben Konowitz

Harley I saw this on I would've

[00:29:43.70] - Brad Oman

saw this. I saw this on VHS. So at this time, I wouldn't have called myself a Will Ferrell fan necessarily because I

[00:29:48.70] - Ben Konowitz

I Will Ferrell had done nothing to be a fan of other than SNL. He wasn't a movie star. Yeah. He wasn't a a

[00:29:53.09] - Brad Oman

a a movie star and he really hadn't hit, like, a big stride on SNL yet even. Like, like, like, the they had done the cheerleaders and stuff like that, but, like He was making a name, but But it was never anything where, like, oh, man, I love Will Ferrell. You You

[00:30:03.29] - Nate Loucks

You You know? Yep. Yep.

[00:30:04.29] - Brad Oman

But I wanna season theaters because I like the Roxbury sketches SNL. So, like, I I really liked it. And a big part of that was the Jim Carrey version of the sketch. Sure. That was the one that stuck in my mind. I was obsessed with Jim Carrey around this time, and so that like, I really like these Roxbury sketches. So I made sure that like my mom took me to see the movie, and, in front of the pod, at least go flicks yourself, not the Saturday Night Live podcast, but Charlie Young, who's a good friend of ours, is also a huge fan of Night at the Roxbury and we well, this was this was like one of our staples, growing up. We still make references to the movie to this day. It's it's not a good movie, but I love this movie because of just, like, when it hit when I grew up and so, like, it still makes me laugh. I I really enjoy it. But you guys didn't watch until it was on VHS? No. No. Nate, did you even see it much later than that?

[00:30:57.59] - Nate Loucks

I don't think I saw this one till, like, ten years ago. Oh, wow. Interesting. And I've hated every time

[00:31:03.59] - Ben Konowitz

I watch this film. You you

[00:31:05.00] - Brad Oman

hate it?

[00:31:05.59] - Nate Loucks

This film's awful.

[00:31:07.00] - Brad Oman

I just see I just like, it's I I feel like

[00:31:08.90] - Ben Konowitz

There's funny parts, but overall, it's

[00:31:10.40] - Nate Loucks

so very, very bad.

[00:31:12.70] - Brad Oman

Like, I hate it's bad.

[00:31:15.29] - Nate Loucks

This is in that level for me. No. Yep. It is it is. No. This has this okay. It's pat had no funny parts to it. Right? None. Like, maybe one. There was

[00:31:24.70] - Ben Konowitz

I left one. Yeah. One time.

[00:31:26.29] - Nate Loucks

This probably had three or four for me, but I actually just found it obnoxious.

[00:31:29.79] - Brad Oman

I mean I

[00:31:30.29] - Nate Loucks

found it obnoxious.

[00:31:31.09] - Brad Oman

It it's stupid, and it is obnoxious to an extent. But, like, there's something about Chris Catan's character in this movie that I I like that it flushes it out beyond what's in the sketch because you never really get a sense of like who they are as characters in the sketch. You don't hear Will Ferrell's voice is changes actually, once they do the the the nineteen ninety seven version with Helen Hunt, that's when you hear the Doug Butavi voice that he uses in the movie because it's a little like this. He talks like I hate it.

[00:31:55.90] - Ben Konowitz

Okay, guys.

[00:31:56.29] - Brad Oman

I hate it.

[00:31:56.90] - Ben Konowitz

What I'm really thinking about is what we need to do to open our own store.

[00:31:59.79] - Nate Loucks

Yeah. Yep. And I kinda hated it. Honestly, I I

[00:32:01.59] - Brad Oman

I I just did I was fine. I still fine with it. I hated it. But yeah. So, like, that's the official voice that he gets. That's the voice he uses when even when they did the the nineteen ninety eight version. But I like Chris Kattan's energy in it. You know, it's it's very much signature Kattan. Like, it's it's it's, like, all over the place and, like, wild. But, like, I love the way he he dances. Like, there's great physical comedy in this movie, I think. I there's two gags and this is a very specific kind of laugh that, like, works for me and I don't know why, but I love a good sight gag where something is thrown and it makes a very loud, like, thunk or crash sound.

[00:32:39.79] - Ben Konowitz

Potted plants in the middle.

[00:32:40.90] - Brad Oman

Potted plants cracks me up every fucking time because if you watch Kattan while I was doing it, he's just chucking him at the side of the van. It's hard. And it's hilarious.

[00:32:49.40] - Ben Konowitz

I laughed when he when he breaks a window because it was unexpected. He goes broke the window again. Like, this has happened multiple times. I did laugh at the pots being thrown for sure. Yeah. But, like, the most annoying stuff is, like, at the gym when they're, like, do you have a power bar? There's an energy bar. You got this bar?

[00:33:06.40] - Brad Oman

No. I got a muscle triplicated bar.

[00:33:08.50] - Ben Konowitz

Fuck you. You're I want that on my life.

[00:33:10.90] - Brad Oman

But they're gym bros.

[00:33:12.00] - Ben Konowitz

No. That's bad humor.

[00:33:13.70] - Nate Loucks

You know, right before this film came out, what, a year before maybe or two years, Clueless came out, and I I saw a review of this. This is Clueless without any charm or without any actual Yeah.

[00:33:34.00] - Ben Konowitz

Except this time he hates his

[00:33:36.09] - Brad Oman

sons. Right. And so but and there there funnily enough, there is a bit of a darkness behind that clueless vibe, because as Chris Kattan revealed, in his memoir, which is called, Cleverly Memoir. Baby Don't Hurt Me.

[00:33:52.40] - Ben Konowitz

Is it really called that?

[00:33:53.40] - Brad Oman

It really is. Yes.

[00:33:54.00] - Nate Loucks

It makes me just I thought

[00:33:55.00] - Ben Konowitz

it was gonna be Mango Unchained.

[00:33:56.79] - Brad Oman

That's fucking hilarious. It's really good. I love that joke so much I'm not even laughing at it because I am so Impressed. Happy for you. I'm so happy. It's like like that that is like I have wow. You're really good. I am like I'm really mad too. Because that's a fucking great joke. Holy shit. Mango Unchained. Goddamn. If this were Go Flix Yourself, that's the name of the episode.

[00:34:23.40] - Ben Konowitz

Well, there you go.

[00:34:24.09] - Nate Loucks

By the way, Will Ferrell had done one movie before this. Only one. What was the film?

[00:34:31.80] - Ben Konowitz

Oh, I I maybe I do have an answer for this. So early nineties Will Ferrell.

[00:34:36.09] - Nate Loucks

I loved him in this film. And it obviously was a bit part. Like, you know, he wasn't getting starting parts yet, but a bit part. Well, I remember him. Ninety eight. Nineteen ninety seven.

[00:34:45.09] - Ben Konowitz

What were in ninety seven? What would Will Ferrell better in ninety seven? Oh my god. Yeah. I can't remember either. What a fun bit.

[00:34:52.00] - Brad Oman

Yeah. This is a good question.

[00:34:53.80] - Nate Loucks

He did one.

[00:34:56.00] - Brad Oman

What is it, Nate?

[00:34:57.09] - Ben Konowitz

Yeah. What is it?

[00:34:59.00] - Nate Loucks

Austin Powers' Internet.

[00:35:00.30] - Brad Oman

Oh, of course. Goddamn it.

[00:35:02.50] - Nate Loucks

Mustafa. I love Is

[00:35:03.40] - Brad Oman

that his first movie?

[00:35:04.19] - Nate Loucks

That's his first movie. Wow. And so, like, Will Ferrell, I think, is brilliant in there. And and it's a bit part, but he's just so freaking funny in this. Yeah. I remember leaving that film not knowing barely anything about Will Ferrell other than

[00:35:16.50] - Ben Konowitz

his That that that was some

[00:35:18.50] - Nate Loucks

of the funniest thing. Hilarious.

[00:35:20.69] - Ben Konowitz

It's a bit it's it's beginning to turn gangrenous. Yeah. So it smells

[00:35:24.50] - Brad Oman

a bit like almonds. Which is not good.

[00:35:26.40] - Ben Konowitz

Which is not good.

[00:35:28.30] - Brad Oman

So, so that was a tangent that we had there. But so I was talking about Chris Kattan, and in his memoir, he wrote about how, Lorne Michaels basically pushed him into having a sexual relationship with Amy Heckerling Yeah. Who was the director of Clueless because Lorne wanted Amy to direct Night at the Roxbury, and so he encouraged Chris Kattan to strike up a relationship.

[00:35:48.90] - Ben Konowitz

Which is mafia level Yeah. Power that Lorne Michaels evidently holds.

[00:35:53.69] - Brad Oman

Well, and you well, you have to wonder though if maybe there was already, like, some kind of chemistry there and he, like, encouraged it. But either way, not cool.

[00:35:59.90] - Ben Konowitz

Well yeah. And and, again, this is in a memoir to sell books, so who knows if it's inflated or what? I I

[00:36:05.69] - Brad Oman

don't know. But they There's

[00:36:06.90] - Ben Konowitz

a lot of weird stuff out there.

[00:36:08.30] - Brad Oman

So so they did That's

[00:36:09.50] - Ben Konowitz

just weird if true.

[00:36:11.59] - Brad Oman

Apparently, they did hook up in her office. It did that did happen, but she didn't end up directing. She only ended up producing the movie. And so, that's her involvement actually is a big part of the reason the movie does not take place in New York, which is primarily where the sketches take place.

[00:36:28.00] - Nate Loucks

Which I think was a bad I I

[00:36:29.80] - Brad Oman

I I don't know because I thinking about it, like, their vibe kind of fits a little bit more perfectly in in Los Angeles, I think, rather than New York. It's just, like, at at least the way it plays out in the movie. Like, their their kinds of characters fit better in Los Angeles than they do in New York.

[00:36:44.40] - Nate Loucks

But the whole I thought watching the the actual sketches, like, I I I felt like it was a very New York type of setting.

[00:36:51.50] - Brad Oman

Right? New York club scene Sure. But the LA club scene isn't much different. But but the way the characters play out as far as, like, the kind of guys they are and, like, their parents and that kind of thing fits better with the Lara like, actually actually, I was specifically talking to, BJ Colangelo. She's a writer at Slashfilm. And she said ever since she's moved to Los Angeles, she lives close to, like, an Armenian neighborhood. And she said there are so many specific references in this movie that she understands much more now because of where she lives.

[00:37:18.59] - Nate Loucks

That's fair. And and the whole, again, Clueless connections, the California kind of felt, again, derivative of that too. Yeah. I felt like setting it in New York City could have been a little bit more of a separation from Clueless as

[00:37:32.59] - Brad Oman

Oh, for sure.

[00:37:33.19] - Nate Loucks

The plot kind of device.

[00:37:34.19] - Brad Oman

For sure. Yeah. But, yeah, Amy Heckerling, apparently, she had said, like, they didn't wanna deal with what she referred to as, like, the the bridge and tunnel, you know, scene and, like, figuring out how to make if that, like, could be part of the movie and, like, all that kind of stuff. It's just

[00:37:47.69] - Ben Konowitz

harder to shoot in New York City than it is.

[00:37:49.30] - Brad Oman

That I mean I mean Just just buy anything. Sure. But but yeah. So so yeah. So that's kind of a dark thing and so the the relationship with Heckerling is actually, the reason that there was a falling out between Chris Kattan and Will Ferrell. So Chris Kattan and Will Ferrell, at the time the movie comes together, have been friends for a long time. They both came up at the Groundlings. They came up with the Roxbury guys at the Groundlings. This is something that they had and that was part of their friendship and they're coming up in comedy before they even came on Saturday

[00:38:16.80] - Nate Loucks

Night Live. On SNL. This is yeah. These are these are guys that were nothing together.

[00:38:20.59] - Brad Oman

Yeah. And so so as it goes, apparently, what happened is, because of the the relationship, Chris Kattan, he says that at one point, Farrell told Chris Kattan, he's like, so I got all your messages, but I didn't call you back because I didn't wanna talk to you. And Which is the best.

[00:38:35.00] - Ben Konowitz

If I remember that I got all your messages over the summer break. Right. You know, now we're back at SNL, and now we've gotta work together again.

[00:38:42.30] - Brad Oman

Right. So So

[00:38:42.59] - Ben Konowitz

So So he comes up to us and says, I got all your messages. I didn't call you back because I didn't want to.

[00:38:45.80] - Nate Loucks

Which is stepbrothers

[00:38:47.09] - Ben Konowitz

for me. Exactly. I mean, that's but it's also, like, a hundred percent honest. Yep. Right? No excuses, but also, like, fuck this. I don't wanna call you.

[00:38:54.90] - Brad Oman

Yeah. And this would explain probably why there are no Roxbury sketches from September nineteen ninety seven.

[00:39:00.90] - Nate Loucks

They were still on the show for three more years?

[00:39:03.00] - Brad Oman

Yeah. To to September nineteen ninety eight when the movie comes out because they had already had their falling out during production of the movie between that season and the the next season.

[00:39:12.09] - Nate Loucks

Does it say why they fell out? It's It's

[00:39:14.19] - Brad Oman

It's It's I I it sounds like Ferrell was upset that Chris Kattan engaged in the relationship at like to to try and benefit the movie.

[00:39:21.40] - Nate Loucks

But why? I I

[00:39:22.40] - Brad Oman

I I mean, I don't know. Because it's kind of a a sketchy thing to, like, agree to and

[00:39:26.80] - Nate Loucks

Well, according to Chris Kattan, he was pressured to do so by Lorne Michaels.

[00:39:31.00] - Brad Oman

Sure. But he still did it. I mean

[00:39:34.00] - Nate Loucks

I I get it. Right? But, like like, I feel like Chris Kattan's put in a really weird place

[00:39:39.00] - Brad Oman

I don't know.

[00:39:39.59] - Nate Loucks

By

[00:39:40.00] - Brad Oman

Maybe there's more in the producer of

[00:39:41.50] - Ben Konowitz

the film and his boss. Well, there's there's more of the story on.

[00:39:44.30] - Brad Oman

That's what I'm saying.

[00:39:44.80] - Ben Konowitz

There's your side, my side, and the truth. Right?

[00:39:46.00] - Brad Oman

I feel

[00:39:46.30] - Ben Konowitz

like there's There's a lot going on here that we have no idea

[00:39:48.30] - Nate Loucks

about. There's layers there.

[00:39:49.40] - Ben Konowitz

So many.

[00:39:50.00] - Nate Loucks

I'm not understanding. So I'm

[00:39:51.30] - Brad Oman

gonna point out something, an interesting fact about this too. And this is something that, Nathan Rabin, who is a writer, for used to be be

[00:39:58.30] - Nate Loucks

be be Not me.

[00:39:58.69] - Brad Oman

Not me. Used to be the AV club. He actually is, does a really interesting series about Saturday Night Live where he's going through each episode one by one. He does, like, a couple a week. He's written about Saturday Night Live a lot, and he did like a retrospective on this movie back in like twenty seventeen or something like that. He says, he so he interviewed Chris Kattan and Amy Heckerling because they did interviews together when they were doing press for Night at the Rocksbury.

[00:40:21.80] - Ben Konowitz

Which is also insane Insanely awkward. That you would no. No. Insane because why wouldn't you have the two stars? Oh, because they end up falling out. So that's a producer?

[00:40:29.30] - Brad Oman

Yeah. When's the

[00:40:29.90] - Ben Konowitz

last time you saw a producer? So they started to

[00:40:31.19] - Brad Oman

write letters. Ever since he even mentioned that. Like, ever since he found that out, he's, like, oh, well, that explains that, and that's really weird. It's weird. Yeah. So he's so he says this about, he said, incidentally, the the two movies I was thinking about writing up today when he wrote this article were Steward Saves His Family and A Night at the Roxbury, both of which were co written by men who had secret sexual relationships with Heckerling. Harold Ramis, the co writer and the director of Stuart Sage's Family, even had a secret child from his secret affair with Amy Heckerling. Who is Amy Heckerling? Crazy.

[00:41:03.40] - Ben Konowitz

She's got that good good evidently. Yeah. That's

[00:41:07.09] - Brad Oman

Only in Hollywood.

[00:41:08.50] - Ben Konowitz

Only in Hollywood.

[00:41:10.30] - Nate Loucks

I mean, let's be honest. The two men she's sleeping with aren't like

[00:41:13.69] - Ben Konowitz

Well, that's also very true. It's Chris Kattan and Harold Ramis.

[00:41:19.80] - Brad Oman

But so but I I like the Los Angeles vibe of this movie that comes with it because then we they, like, you you get Richard Grieco being there cruising around in his illegal Ferrari. It's a fun cameo.

[00:41:32.00] - Ben Konowitz

I also, did watch a clip of a podcast from two or three years ago with Emilio Estevez. And it and the woman is in her twenties, and she goes, I love Night of the Rocks parade. I'm sure you get this all the time. But when you were the mighty duck man himself, Emilio Emilio, did that happen to you all the time? He goes, it happens every day. That's awesome. He goes, it's still one

[00:41:56.59] - Nate Loucks

of my favorites.

[00:41:57.09] - Ben Konowitz

It still

[00:41:57.69] - Nate Loucks

happens to him

[00:41:59.30] - Ben Konowitz

every day.

[00:42:00.09] - Brad Oman

I love that. And they they

[00:42:01.09] - Ben Konowitz

they they were really

[00:42:01.80] - Brad Oman

trying to I'm not even sure I would be able to resist.

[00:42:03.90] - Ben Konowitz

So then so he tells the story. He goes so then one time, and this is, like, a few years after the movie came out, I'm at a function. It's an all day thing, and Catan's there. And I can see him kinda side eyeing me and, like, just, you know, not really. And he comes up, and he goes, are you you mad at me? And he goes, for what? He goes, you know, for the thing. He's like, I don't know what you're talking about. What what do you mean? And he goes and so then he says, and this is gonna be the the exaggeration. Yeah. He says, Kattani, in that moment goes, Emilio. And everybody turned their heads and says, I wasn't mad before, but I'm mad now. So I don't know if that's the

[00:42:37.40] - Brad Oman

the bit. That's that's a bit, but Still

[00:42:38.80] - Ben Konowitz

a big joke. Yeah.

[00:42:39.40] - Brad Oman

That that is really funny. Yeah. Gosh. That's I yeah. I can't imagine that.

[00:42:43.19] - Ben Konowitz

It happens every day.

[00:42:45.00] - Brad Oman

So funny.

[00:42:46.30] - Nate Loucks

There was another actress, famous actress, that made her film debut in this. At the end, she was a bridesmaid. Who was it?

[00:42:52.09] - Brad Oman

That's correct. I I found I also found out that this was Eva Mendez's first movie ever. Oh.

[00:42:57.00] - Nate Loucks

Yep. I'm not gonna lie to you guys,

[00:42:59.00] - Ben Konowitz

and I know this is controversial. Molly Shannon's hot.

[00:43:02.00] - Nate Loucks

I have a big crush on Eva Mendez.

[00:43:04.30] - Ben Konowitz

So does Ryan Gosling.

[00:43:05.50] - Brad Oman

Yep. For sure.

[00:43:06.19] - Nate Loucks

I just don't think I have a chance, though.

[00:43:07.80] - Ben Konowitz

I don't think you do.

[00:43:09.19] - Brad Oman

Is your

[00:43:09.69] - Ben Konowitz

your name your full name is Nathan. Correct?

[00:43:11.50] - Nate Loucks

Yes.

[00:43:11.80] - Ben Konowitz

Not Nathaniel? No. Okay.

[00:43:13.80] - Brad Oman

If you were Nathaniel, maybe. Mhmm.

[00:43:15.40] - Ben Konowitz

Yeah. That's

[00:43:16.80] - Nate Loucks

also Will Ferrell met his wife on this film.

[00:43:18.90] - Brad Oman

Yes. That's true. It's the only movie they've ever appeared in together. She plays, like, a a random Yeah. But person. Next film. Isn't that fun? The other, coming back to something I was talking about before, the other physical thing that makes me funny that is the same sound throwing thing is when, Will Ferrell's crying in the van, and he's like, Hey hot lady, what's shaking? And they just throw the milkshake at the van, the sound it makes, like, it fucking cracks me up every single time. And Chris Kattan's reaction is great too because he's like, oh, don't worry about it. We'll clean it up later.

[00:43:51.50] - Ben Konowitz

It's a bad movie. Right?

[00:43:52.59] - Brad Oman

Yeah. I don't I don't disagree. No. You're fine. I don't disagree. We're in the It's a bad movie. I think it's very funny, though.

[00:43:58.50] - Nate Loucks

Okay. There are times, though. I hundred percent agree with you where

[00:44:01.40] - Brad Oman

Chaz Palminteri is hilarious.

[00:44:02.90] - Ben Konowitz

No. He's

[00:44:03.40] - Brad Oman

Every time he's

[00:44:04.09] - Nate Loucks

on screen. He's good. He's good.

[00:44:05.69] - Ben Konowitz

The the whole, you know

[00:44:07.00] - Brad Oman

Do you grab my ass?

[00:44:08.50] - Ben Konowitz

Who grabbed my ass? The, Jim Carrey, you you pet detective son of a Moping. That's good. You know? It's good.

[00:44:16.80] - Nate Loucks

But it's funny when we're thirteen. It's not as funny.

[00:44:19.19] - Brad Oman

No. It's still funny. It's still funny. It shows. To prove to prove to prove this, I'll show you. My mom was laughing at this movie today when I when I watched it. I put it on, and she was laughing at it. Yeah. But your mom likes Chaz's butt. Weird.

[00:44:33.19] - Ben Konowitz

She wants to grab the butt.

[00:44:34.90] - Brad Oman

So the the music song and dance sequence I guess you can call it in the middle of this movie I think is very good because it's it's very funny like the the physical comedy aspect is is really funny it's also like edited and choreographed very well with the music Like, it's it gives you, like, a good nineties club energy.

[00:44:54.40] - Nate Loucks

I love you with all my heart, but you're stretching you.

[00:44:56.30] - Brad Oman

I'm I'm really not.

[00:44:57.59] - Ben Konowitz

One thing that I think is to to my, whatever, fourteen year old brain or or sixteen year old brain when I saw this, one thing that I thought was awesome and that I don't think is as awesome anymore is the idea of that they had to have the club. The the way it looks like you're inside when you're outside and outside. I thought even back then, and and for those of you that don't know, I had, some escape I had an escape room business, and I loved theming and designing. And that probably back then was like, oh, yeah. You can make the inside look like the outside and the outside look like the inside. I just I lost my mind at that when I was that age. I I'd love shit like that.

[00:45:32.59] - Brad Oman

It doesn't make any sense though because they have actual club furniture outside of the club and if it rains it's ruined.

[00:45:38.50] - Nate Loucks

Yeah. That's like the old Holiday Inn in La Plur

[00:45:40.80] - Ben Konowitz

Exactly why it's a terrible Nobody.

[00:45:42.30] - Brad Oman

Nobody. But but they have actual club furniture out like, in the elements. Lure. Yeah.

[00:45:46.90] - Ben Konowitz

Stuff that will be matted and smell like wet dog immediately.

[00:45:50.00] - Brad Oman

But, no. Like, speaking of Chaz Palminteri and that sequence, though, I love when they're dancing with each other and they all, like, grab each other's butts. It's like, there's some good ass grabbing going on there.

[00:45:59.09] - Nate Loucks

What a weird

[00:45:59.50] - Brad Oman

That's fine.

[00:46:00.00] - Ben Konowitz

That's fine.

[00:46:00.50] - Brad Oman

That's a

[00:46:00.80] - Nate Loucks

that's a nice little I mean, I can I could

[00:46:03.00] - Ben Konowitz

try?

[00:46:03.19] - Brad Oman

I have seen this movie so many times that I noticed

[00:46:05.59] - Nate Loucks

something Why would you ever watch

[00:46:07.09] - Brad Oman

this again? I have seen this movie more than you would even want to watch any movie.

[00:46:10.90] - Nate Loucks

I love so much respect for you.

[00:46:12.30] - Brad Oman

I have respect for myself, and that's all that matters. Do you? Yeah. Do you? I'm good enough. I'm smart enough, and doggone to people

[00:46:18.69] - Ben Konowitz

like me.

[00:46:19.09] - Brad Oman

That's a film.

[00:46:19.90] - Ben Konowitz

That is a film. You think think

[00:46:21.50] - Brad Oman

think think you do?

[00:46:21.90] - Ben Konowitz

If that's a but I don't think you do. do.

[00:46:23.80] - Brad Oman

do. do. That's fair.

[00:46:24.80] - Nate Loucks

Wait. Which which which is better? This or Stuart saves his family?

[00:46:28.69] - Brad Oman

I enjoy this more than Stuart Sages' family. No. No.

[00:46:30.69] - Nate Loucks

No. No. Not even

[00:46:31.09] - Brad Oman

I think Stuart Sages' family is the better film, but I enjoy this more than Stuart Sages' family.

[00:46:35.09] - Nate Loucks

Was actually trying to be a a

[00:46:36.19] - Brad Oman

a a better film. Not saying anything.

[00:46:37.09] - Nate Loucks

I wanna know what Ben is saying.

[00:46:38.30] - Ben Konowitz

This is by far the funnier film. Okay. No. There's five times I laughed out loud. Stewart's Family is not a comedy whatsoever. It's a it's a drama. And it's a drama. It's a great comedy. It's a drama. It's a great movie.

[00:46:48.00] - Nate Loucks

Which one would you watch again? I I

[00:46:49.69] - Ben Konowitz

I I would watch Serious Incident Family again.

[00:46:51.09] - Nate Loucks

As you should. Yep.

[00:46:52.09] - Brad Oman

I'll watch Night of the Rexburg tomorrow.

[00:46:53.69] - Ben Konowitz

Okay. Anyway, what's your point?

[00:46:55.59] - Nate Loucks

There

[00:46:55.69] - Brad Oman

is this is a PG thirteen movie. There is Okay. A moment, when they go to Chaz Palminteri's character's house where the camera is panning across the party in the yard and sitting in the pool is a woman with no top and her boobs are just sitting right out there and no one noticed.

[00:47:13.69] - Nate Loucks

It doesn't shock me that you figured that out.

[00:47:15.90] - Ben Konowitz

I didn't even realize that. It was a thing. Okay.

[00:47:18.00] - Brad Oman

I didn't see that either. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:47:19.30] - Ben Konowitz

Yeah. Yeah. So what what Brad's trying to say is you're not allowed to do that in a PG thirteen movie. Yeah.

[00:47:22.69] - Brad Oman

No. You cannot have bare boobs in a PG thirteen movie, but they made it in, and they are right there for everybody to see. Thirteen year olds included.

[00:47:32.09] - Nate Loucks

Did you see it when it came out?

[00:47:33.59] - Brad Oman

No. I didn't notice this until, like, repeat watching this.

[00:47:36.40] - Ben Konowitz

Until I paused it frame by frame as I normally do on Tuesdays. There's a

[00:47:39.90] - Brad Oman

repeat watching tonight. This part of the tape was worn out. But no. I mean, yeah. The Emilio gag is hilarious. The Will Ferrell's ambulance sounds like we were doing before is is really funny. Yeah. I don't know. I just I I I get a lot of enjoyment out of me.

[00:47:57.30] - Ben Konowitz

It tickles a very

[00:47:58.00] - Brad Oman

specific The say anything reference at the end is very funny.

[00:48:01.00] - Ben Konowitz

That's that's fun. That's fun.

[00:48:02.69] - Brad Oman

It's not a joke. The Jerry Maguire riff? Fun. Jerry Maguire riff?

[00:48:05.59] - Nate Loucks

It's fun. It's fine. It's not

[00:48:08.80] - Ben Konowitz

gonna say funny. That was a fun scene, but a lot of funnies.

[00:48:11.09] - Brad Oman

This movie's very funny.

[00:48:12.30] - Nate Loucks

I know you're trying to sell it, and I love that for you. But, like, actually, I will say this. I thought Molly Shannon was one of the better parts of this film.

[00:48:20.59] - Brad Oman

Yeah. She loves making out.

[00:48:22.50] - Ben Konowitz

She's great, though.

[00:48:23.30] - Nate Loucks

No. I think she's pretty funny in this. Yeah. I I get why I think maybe they were making Superstar right at the same time, were they? I think they green lit both of those films. I I

[00:48:30.80] - Brad Oman

I I imagine they probably went and pressed on Superstar, like, right after this.

[00:48:33.40] - Nate Loucks

Yeah. And so but I get that because she she does have so much talent. And I know that film's not any good, but, like, she has so much talent. And she's she's charismatic when she's on like, she does this thing that I get. Like, I I get why people like Molly Shannon when you watch it. Yep.

[00:48:47.90] - Brad Oman

Well, yeah. There are critics who agree with you. I picked two of, my my more favorite, commentaries about this. Nathan Rabin, funnily enough, wrote a pretty scathing review of Night of the Roxbury. And he can be a little bit pretentious when it comes to certain comedy things sometimes, so I'm like He just

[00:49:06.50] - Nate Loucks

likes good comedies.

[00:49:07.69] - Brad Oman

So here's what Nathan Rabin said, while he was writing at the AV Club. And the first part of this will make you be like, oh, hold on a second, motherfucker. So hold on. Apparently seeking to continue Chris Farley's enduring legacy of awful Saturday Night Live derived buddy comedies

[00:49:23.80] - Nate Loucks

Go fuck yourself. See, I told you. You're done.

[00:49:27.30] - Brad Oman

Chris Kattan and Will Ferrell bring their clueless disco dancing club hopping SNL characters newly christened the Batabi brothers to the big screen in the Night of the Roxbury. Faced with the daunting task of transforming a skit involving a pair of hapless near mute disco dwellers into a feature length movie, the filmmakers have given the brothers a backstory seemingly assembled at random from discarded scripts from past SNL projects. Ouch. For the record,

[00:49:49.80] - Nate Loucks

Black Sheep's not a good film. Black Sheep is a thousand times better than this. Yes. There are

[00:49:54.09] - Ben Konowitz

so many more laughs in Black Sheep.

[00:49:55.90] - Brad Oman

I agree with that. But, yes, Black Sheep is not good.

[00:49:58.19] - Ben Konowitz

There are there are so many more thousand times better. There are so many more laughs in Beverly Hills Ninja

[00:50:02.40] - Brad Oman

than there are in the I will that I won't go that far. Beverly Hills Ninja and either Roxbury are equally bad, and they each have funny moments.

[00:50:10.59] - Nate Loucks

Beverly Hills is just bad. Black Sheep is Very bad. Wagons East Black Sheep is

[00:50:15.40] - Brad Oman

just fine. That's not even remotely true, and you know it.

[00:50:18.00] - Nate Loucks

Black Sheep, I think, is fine. It's not good or bad. It's fine. Beverly Hills Ninja is bad, but I still like it.

[00:50:24.69] - Ben Konowitz

Kill Whitey. I laugh at that every night. night.

[00:50:29.50] - Brad Oman

night. night. I laugh hard at them every time. The bat scene with

[00:50:33.30] - Ben Konowitz

Yeah. Oh, exactly. That That

[00:50:34.30] - Brad Oman

That That that'll

[00:50:35.09] - Ben Konowitz

There's plenty in there.

[00:50:36.19] - Nate Loucks

Falling down the hill.

[00:50:36.90] - Brad Oman

Let's talk about that one. Yeah.

[00:50:38.19] - Ben Konowitz

Like, yeah. Like, can we just talk about that movie?

[00:50:40.19] - Brad Oman

I do wonder once we're out of SNL movies if we should. We We

[00:50:42.40] - Nate Loucks

We We should

[00:50:42.59] - Ben Konowitz

just do the Farley movies. If If

[00:50:43.59] - Brad Oman

If If we want, we just go through the movies of SNL stars that kinda, like, happen well. Anyway, Roger Ebert. This is my favorite one.

[00:50:50.00] - Ben Konowitz

I like

[00:50:50.40] - Brad Oman

Raj. D kapesch of Chicago writes, do you ever find yourself distracted during a screening by thoughts of their view you will write later? Distracted to the point of missing part of the film? Sometimes, it gets much worse than that, d. Sometimes, a movie is so witless that I abandon any attempt to think up clever lines for my review and return in defeat to actually watching the film itself. I approach it as an opportunity for meditation. My mantra is, a Night at the Roxbury is such a

[00:51:15.90] - Ben Konowitz

movie. So

[00:51:17.40] - Nate Loucks

I agree with Raj.

[00:51:19.40] - Brad Oman

Well, this is one of the cases where Roger Ebert was wrong. Mhmm. So, and I don't say that often. But when it comes to Night at the Roxbury, a classic comedy

[00:51:29.30] - Ben Konowitz

Oh, boy.

[00:51:30.00] - Nate Loucks

And I think we've said all we could say about it.

[00:51:32.19] - Ben Konowitz

Yeah. Like, I like that Brad's looking at, like and now that, like, time has passed and the criterion collection version has come out, I think we all know that it's aged very gracefully and that it's just it's like a fine wine.

[00:51:45.90] - Brad Oman

Yeah. I mean, how often do you get a post humus essay from Paul, or or shit. It's not even worth it anymore.

[00:51:55.69] - Ben Konowitz

Thomas Anderson?

[00:51:56.00] - Brad Oman

I was gonna say Hunter s Thompson, and I started saying Paul Thomas Anderson, and I started saying Paul Thomas Anderson, and said, nah. It's not even worth it. No. That stays in, Nate.

[00:52:01.50] - Ben Konowitz

No. Yeah. Yeah. He needs to be punished.

[00:52:03.09] - Brad Oman

That's a fuck up, and I'll I'll I'll own something. You're gonna own that you're gonna own that one? Yeah. That fucked that joke up.

[00:52:07.80] - Nate Loucks

Sorry, guys.

[00:52:08.19] - Brad Oman

Would have been gold if I landed the delivery, but listeners

[00:52:10.59] - Nate Loucks

don't know how many times that happens in episode. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:52:12.40] - Brad Oman

Yeah. Yeah. I had a triple lutz planned for this performance, and I fucking knocked

[00:52:15.90] - Nate Loucks

Not getting a gold medal tonight.

[00:52:17.59] - Ben Konowitz

We're not professional professional editors, so I think they have kind of an idea how how many times it happens in an episode.

[00:52:22.80] - Nate Loucks

No. We hide a lot. Brad and I hide a lot when we get

[00:52:25.09] - Brad Oman

into these episodes. Mhmm. Yeah. Most of it from Ben.

[00:52:27.59] - Ben Konowitz

Yeah. Final thoughts on the, A Night at the Roxbury besides the fact that it's great? It's not good.

[00:52:33.80] - Brad Oman

It's a great nineties soundtrack. It's got a lot of bangers.

[00:52:36.80] - Nate Loucks

I don't I don't like dance music.

[00:52:38.69] - Brad Oman

I don't like dance music either, but I like this soundtrack. Okay.

[00:52:42.19] - Nate Loucks

Ben, anything from you?

[00:52:44.59] - Ben Konowitz

I'd I'd like the only thing we didn't touch on is we did a little bit. Sorry. The Molly Shannon character. I like I

[00:52:50.80] - Nate Loucks

touched on that.

[00:52:51.50] - Ben Konowitz

The dynamic between Will Ferrell and her and his just reluctance to just, like, I guess this will be my life.

[00:52:59.69] - Nate Loucks

They could have done more without it.

[00:53:01.09] - Ben Konowitz

Really, if they would have explored that, it could have been a way better movie. But Agree.

[00:53:04.50] - Nate Loucks

Their chemistry is very good. It It

[00:53:05.59] - Ben Konowitz

It It yeah. And I see why Superstar probably the cast worked there as well because Will Ferrell's in that movie as well. But, Molly Shannon and and and Will Ferrell's relationship was an underrated part of of this film. And Dan Haidai is great, and Chaz Palminteri Palminteri

[00:53:21.90] - Brad Oman

Mhmm.

[00:53:22.40] - Ben Konowitz

Is great. They're they're very, very good in this movie.

[00:53:25.09] - Nate Loucks

Alright. We wanna hear from you. Let us know what you think about this film. If you liked it as much as Brad or if you disliked it as much as I did, or if you're just, you know, kind of in the middle like Ben.

[00:53:35.69] - Ben Konowitz

I liked it more than Nate, a lot less than Brad.

[00:53:39.30] - Brad Oman

I love this movie.

[00:53:42.19] - Ben Konowitz

So sound off in the comments on the Facebooks and let us

[00:53:46.40] - Nate Loucks

know. Yep. Alright. Hey. Where can people find you?

[00:53:49.69] - Brad Oman

Oh, you can find me at slash film dot com. Sometimes I'm writing about Saturday Night Live. Sometimes I'm writing about Saturday Night Live movies. I actually just recently wrote an article about a little bit of trivia in in Wayne's World that I didn't know about, which, you can go read about that if you want. It's con it's concerning the Led Zeppelin Stairway to Heaven reference. Oh. You can find a little interesting factoid about that on slash room dot com. You can also find me on Twitter at Ethan underscore Anderton, and, stick around because we have plenty more Saturday Night Live movie festivities coming in.

[00:54:22.30] - Ben Konowitz

You can find Nate and I, on Go Fix Yourself, our

[00:54:25.00] - Nate Loucks

other You gotta know you and I have a podcast.

[00:54:27.80] - Ben Konowitz

Go fix yourself.

[00:54:28.50] - Brad Oman

You guys you guys still fuck around on Twitter too?

[00:54:30.90] - Ben Konowitz

Here and there. Make bad jokes about Airbuds sometimes.

[00:54:33.40] - Brad Oman

What else is new? The next movie in our list I believe is superstar correct yes superstar starring Molly Shannon with Will Ferrell in two different roles, and we'll be, we'll be watching that in, and coming back to talk about it in a couple weeks.

[00:54:49.50] - Ben Konowitz

Plays Bruce Dexter and his evil twin, Dex Brewster.

[00:54:54.09] - Nate Loucks

Alright. On that joke, we're gonna let you go, but, we look forward to please rate and review this podcast and keep listening. We'll be with you all summer. Thanks so much for listening. Be good to yourself, be good others. Bye bye.